Quote from: mikeywith on March 14, 2019, 09:37:09 PM

Quote from: cryptohunter on March 14, 2019, 12:10:01 PM

Congrats to you Mikey that is fair enough but stop with the other false and ridiculous that you seem to KEEP making about the merit system.

TLDR
1. noobs that hang in meta supporting provably broken systems and their abusers = high merit
2. noobs that don't hang in meta supporting provably broken systems and their abusers = low merit
3. noobs that don't know about meta board and just use the discussion/ann boards = low merit
4. noobs that present the truth regarding the systems of control and the abusers of those systems = no merit

I think the "false and ridiculous assumptions" are rather yours

as we speak I have 529 merit - 113 merit from meta = 416 out side of Meta

The merit I got out side of Meta are probably more than what other 500 everyday-meta members combined get.

I am on of the most active members on btc mining board, solved a dozen of issues for a dozen of people, what have you done except for nagging about merit and DT ? nothing personal but i don't accept the fact that you directly or indirectly accusing me for earning my merit by supporting any system, i support people who have problems, help them out, educate them and that's all about it, and i could care less about all the drama they you and some other members enjoy.

look at this newbie > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1712442

16 posts > 40 merit . 0% from meta

I have many other examples to show you, many people hang in meta all day long , support the "provably broken systems" and get no merit at all.

TL;DR

get our of the conspiracy theory you live in.

Quote from: bitart on March 14, 2019, 09:31:35 PM

don't forget to spread the ~~love~~ merits whereever you go on the forum to let the others (who deserve it) to rank up too.

I do i do trust me , i always keep my merit bag near empty. Grin

Mikey Mikey Mikey - please don't fail to over look the praise I have given you already. So it is not like I am having a go at you.

Let's examine your post and take it apart as I have done so with every other post you have made that makes a faux rebuttal of my observably true statements. This all relates back to my thread called the most important thread of the
year. I mean just trace back through our prior debates. You will notice that you vanish when I start nailing you down to details. You either do not understand how it observably works or you are choosing to ignore it and feign ignorance.

1. you hang in meta = yes or no

that would be yes.

2. you again try to defend the broken systems of control = yes or no

that would be yes and actually support them

3. you call observable fact relating to how the systems of control DO function and their implications a "conspiracy theory"

again true

4. you continue to use your anecdotal experience as validation for your false claims and general lack of understanding of these abused systems. Even after I have taken time to break it down and explain it to you many times.

again true

5. you claim to not be ass kissing or defending the DT abusers, but yet call accurate descriptions of their abuse and behaviours and its implications " conspiracy theories" therefore seeking to discredit the evidence provided.

again true

6. You see being familiar with other "meta" posters does not mean you will essentially gain their merit favour purely on meta board. Once you are on their merit merry go around ( observably aligned with their agendas) they admit they bookmark their fav posters and just search their post histories to bestow merits.

Merit system is the source of their power to abuse, it is the tool to influence or even crush free speech.

again true

Now let's be sensible. You helping some new people with some issues resolve them is noble and deserving of merit indeed. However, my quest to bring forth a transparent and fair system ensuring equal treatment for all whilst preserving free speech for no direct personal gain and actually the destruction of my own account -- well as you can imagine that is equally as noble and has far larger implications. That is without boring you all over again with my prior achievements.

Let's not get up set with each other. As I have said my main beef with you is not that you are a trust abuser, nor seemingly that unfair. It is that you are proliferating false information which is misleading and damaging to the freedom of speech of this board.

Now, I would suggest again that you go and read that thread of the year thread and keep reading it over until you grasp that it is not a debate, it is not an opinion and rather it is an accurate and observably correct presentation of how the systems of control merit and trust operate and the damage they are inflicting on free speech. Not only that, but there is built in motive and financial incentive to abuse the systems.

Now before responding here. Go and respond to one of the other debates we were having until you just vanished or go read the thread of the year and understand the full implications of the merit system "which you are promoting here"

People that keep saying pre merit members were lucky or got easy merit are being disrespectful to those that accomplished many amazing things and made posts that were far far better than the vast majority of "high" merit cyclers are even capable of. I mean some say "most" pre merit legends are spammers....imagine that kind of crazy allowed to proliferate.

Now again, well done on your merits , but stop making far reaching statements that are simply not true or at best misleading and inaccurate.

I have no idea why you are so upset since I said you were likely more deserving for your efforts than most of the cyclers. Certainly though you need to read more before posting on certain aspects of this forum. Experience and knowledge of many members histories and previous events here are paramount really when making a case for certain admin level changes or even commenting on the systems of control. Hence why I think most noobs should not be hanging in meta at all. Most are here to merit up, rank up , sig banner up, spam with impunity. Simple as that. Although that is the same for most of the meta club as we can observe.