Quote from: poptok1 on March 15, 2019, 04:57:57 PM

Quote from: theymos on March 15, 2019, 04:14:35 PM

The attacker's motivation was apparently -snip-

I don't think we should recognise his motivation at all. Who cares what was in his sick mind anyway.
Egomaniacal psychopaths are all the same, radicalism of theirs only leads to suffering and pain of innocents.
If there is a lesson to be learned from all this madness, it is to stay unaffected and give zero care about that "man".
Cold blooded murderer deserves nothing else than cold dark cell for the rest of his miserable life.

Stop making stupid people famous, rarely is more adequate.

How exactly do you stop such events from happening in the future if you ignore their motivations? While agree with not glorifying these people, pretending they don't exist is not a solution either. Just writing them off as insane is more comfortable than having to examine what truly motivated them. Personally I am of the opinion that this was some kind of state level operation. This was a team of well armed, seemingly well trained people in a country where those types of weapons are restricted. Also he made sure to mention a lot of the key groups and faces of dissent in the US in order to cause them to be associated with violence, and provide lots of ammo to defame and demonize them with. Their ability to manipulate the media and general public to their goals is FAR BEYOND the levels of expertise of your average psychopathic homicidal whack jobs.

This was ORGANIZED, probably at a very high level. He even stated his desired to widen social rifts internationally, specifically in the US. The key factor of intent, his desire to widen the conflict over gun control, and spur actions to further that conflict. Of course the one thing almost guaranteed to start a civil war in the USA is if they start confiscating guns (more). That's why I say this whole attack was far too articulate to just be an average group of loons. This was 100% an organized operation, probably by state level entities. You judge a man by the fruits of his labor, and when every single fruit on the tree is rotten, you need to start asking questions, because that is not organic.