Quote from: nottm28 on February 08, 2014, 06:55:04 PM

Quote from: The Observer on February 08, 2014, 04:25:58 PM

Quote from: nottm28 on February 08, 2014, 10:39:43 AM

The Observer has been registered for just over a month. Even if the guy is a genuine honest person, there's no way to know. You'd be crazy to part with your cash on this thread.

In all due fairness, you have been here for a long time, and i still would have no way to know i could trust you either. Your age on this forum is not a measure of honesty. For that matter, i have worked it out with the guys at VX miners to take the payments directly so i will not be collecting or holding any funds EVER for this group buy. So if you want to troll about something, troll about making payment direct to the manufacturers who are not a part of this forum at all mainly because they dont care about it as they only have 200 machines to unload.

Age on the forum may be no guarantee of trustworthiness, but it goes a long way if you can browse over several hundred posts from a person and get a measure of their history, participation in group buys, trust status etc. The fact that you are so defensive (calling me a troll - nobody ever has before) raises even more suspicion for me. This is a typical tactic for a scammer and I have seen it used many times on the forums.

I never said you were a scammer and for all I know you are a genuine honest person. My point was that given the lack of history available on your account, new users on here (or anyone for that matter) would be crazy to trust you with thousands of pounds/dollars/whatever your flavour.

I'm not up for a big debate on it, but I've seen lots of people just disappear and leave the buyers (quite often newbies) in the lurch.

To anyone considering giving this complete stranger your cash, think.

I can agree with you on the points you made, and my apologies on branding you a troll. I guess i have just just over anticipated the normal idiots who lurk here on the forms and was quick to assume that you were one of them. I was not intending to be "defensive" more so just making my point that i really dont give a rats ass about the opinions of the typical forum troll with a hyper inflated ego, which after looking through your history i can see you are not. So again, i apologize for being so quick to jump to conclusions. You make some valid points.

Again for anyone who is still following, i have worked it out with the guys at VX miners so that if we hit the 50 unit requirement for the group buy, you will be dealing with them directly on payment so you dont have to "trust" me with your money/Bitcoin when payment comes due. Also i cannot seem to find the post about the website that Sushi used for his free miner giveaways so that we can use that same service for selecting the winner of the free miner from this group buy. If anyone could lend a hand with that i would greatly appreciate it. Being newer to the forum, i am still trying to figure out the search functions and best way to find old posts.

Thanks