Quote from: rab2005 on March 17, 2019, 12:04:19 AM

Quote from: fullypak on March 15, 2019, 02:21:43 PM

Im Turk and I live in Turkey. I don't understand why Europeans accept non-white and muslim refugees in their own countries. My grandfather was a soldier in the Ottoman Empire. Sometimes we don't even want to live with some radical Muslims. They dont respect your culture and live their culture in your country. If you dont want to live like Europeans, why did you immigrate to Europe. And know that. When they raise population of muslims in your country, they want to change your life style. Stop accepting non-white or radical refugees. Such attacks are just the beginning. It is sad but different cultures cant live together. Defend Europe

The strange thing is that when innocents are killed in places of worship
You leave the murderer and look for the known scarecrow illusion
(Radical Islamists)
This terrorist killer you does not consider him a radical Christian?
You seem to have a problem with the Islamists in general and want them to give up their identity
They live like secularists or Christians, for example, and this is impossible
Everyone can live in peace as long as the ideas of acceptance of the other and dialogue of civilizations prevail
Not the clash of civilizations

There are two sides to this coin. In the Western word one has excuses made for it and people crying racism and bigotry every time it is called out. The other is blasted at maximum volume and taken to the most extreme interpretations. This person did not shoot these people because of religious motivations, yet most radical Muslim terrorists do regularly cite their religious beliefs as motivation. One of these happens more than the other, you are attempting to craft a false equivalency.

Plenty of Muslims move to Western nations and assimilate. They are not the enemy of Western nations. Even if they choose to not assimilate, really no one cares, they are free to live their lives that way even in Western nations. What IS the problem is Sharia law, and Muslims who move to Western nations and try to impose Sharia law. Sharia law is incompatible with freedom and Democracy. Sharia law is a political system wearing a veil of religion to hide behind.

Many of these people who support Sharia law don't give a fuck about you or your dialog and will take power by force if they are allowed. Unfortunately any time anyone points this out, there are endless cries of racism and bigotry and this discussion is never allowed to be had. If you think this problem can be solved only with dialog I suggest you take a trip to Somalia and have a dialog with the locals and report back your results. You are in a bubble of Western comfort that blinds you from the harsh realities of the rest of the world where they have no problem removing your head and selling your mother into sex slavery just because you do not worship their God. Unfortunately I think Europe is going to realize this too late.

This attack was carefully crafted to inflame both "sides" of this conflict. It is a mistake to look at the world as "if I were them I would do this..." because not everyone is like you, and some people wouldn't blink over disemboweling you in front of your family. Monsters are real, and asking them kindly not to be monsters is not a solution. That said this attack is inexcusable, and it would be equally inexcusable if it were perpetrated by a Muslim.