Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

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I'll reply once since even though you are still wrong in what you say and still continue to attack, there's a hint of some possible discussion here.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

You made plenty of money out of betking both pre-ICO and post-ICO.

Not true. I lost millions of $ since the ICO.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

I have no recollection of a figure of 600 BTC ever being mentioned before with regards to buy-backs. It was clearly stated in the past "I have bought back 70% of all tokens" and then on another occasion "I have bought back 90% of all BKB tokens" but it was never mentioned even once that 600 BTC of bankroll was used to do it. That figure I see has dropped back down from 90% to 70% again.

Doesn't matter if you remember or not. It's been public. The main point is that all token holders were allowed access to a private Telegram group.
We discussed business decisions and spending and stats in there. They were not the concern of this forum. There was no need to post anything in this forum. Any large holders that didn;t want to discuss in Telegram were in contact via email.

I also never once said I bought 90% of tokens. I did say that up to 20% were willing to swap for BitSafe tokens which would bring the figure closer to 90%, most of these people have now converted to the new BKT token.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

* Nobody knows exactly how much bankroll BTC remains

Never needed to be made public here.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

* This is the first time a figure of 6 devs working for 12 months was given but no explanation why there was no physical noticeble changes on betking.io
* The white paper mentioned apps and new games and development but literally nothing happened apart from old games me re-added and later removed

Had there been more openness from the beginning then maybe much of the issues could have been addressed earlier.

Again, any business decisions or spending or expenses was not information that was to be made public or of interest to anyone on this forum. Instead of any discussion you make assumptions and claim them as fact. We done a tonne of development on the site.
Any site owner would be able to tell you that it's not just the design that shows work being done. We have worked on BetKing non stop. Old games can't just be re-added and integrations of other services are not easy. You are not a developer (i saw your request looking for one). There is always things behind the scenes to be working on that most users wouldn't notice.
Look at BitDice, 8-10m raised in ICO and site is the same a year and a half later. With no scam accusations. What has been done there? Behind the scenes development that no one notices much.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

Simple steps such as publishing post-ICO 2017 wallet addresses, monthly/quarterly bulletins stating number of buy-backs and at which cost as well as other information such as ALL expenses, ALL gross/net profits, traffic numbers and other info would have been a great start but all that was suppressed.

Again, a private company and that information did not need to be made public. But was always shared with token holders anyway. This forum isn't where these things are communicated.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

Throwing a tantrum and refusing to answer questions about the state of play is not the way any business owner should behave.

You have spent a year on this smear campaign attacking me personally and BetKing. Why would I have continued to answer your questions?
You always either ignored them and post more spam over the top with false claims of scam or you twist my words to suit your narrative.
All while not having a single cent invested in the site. You were not a token holder. You didn't need to be informed of anything related to the business of BetKing.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

To say BKB tokens holders or ICO investors had that information but nobody else could or should have it is something that was a bad move on your part. Anyway not all token holders had ALL the information, they were searching for it themselves and had to wait until you gave it to them.

Had you at least answered some of the questions I asked at the time of the ICO and post-ICO then people would have been more informed. Even now the whole thing is close-guarded and clouded in secrecy.

Most did have the information, certainly the largest percentage of $ value did. We obviously can't reach everyone but posting on this forum was not the answer. Especially when you spent a year doing this. You have done far more harm to investors and the website than I ever could.

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

Anyway, all the evidence suggests extremely weak business acumen at the very least and a much serious matter of a scam at the other end of the spectrum and the reason for those assumptions existing are because you yourself have created a toxic environment. You still have time to right some of the wrongs and gain some credibility before betking meets its eventual demise.

Now we're getting somewhere.
I've admitted many times that I could have run the business far better or done things differently. But it is not a scam to run a business poorly. It is not a scam to spend money on things that didn't bring an ROI.
Token holders can see the steps that have been taken to try and turn things around.
We have a new, much improved and built from scratch platform (regardless of what you say about the look or whatever). It has shown an increase in players and profit for token holders and bankroll investors already with the numbers growing each week.
I personally don't make a single penny off of the new platform yet. I hold tokens but they are essentially locked from circulation at this time. I want to see the platform and player base built up and original BKB holders see a positive return (even though there are few left) before I consider making any profit.

P.S

Quote from: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:55:38 PM

You honestly have literally next to nothing in social skills, have no idea how to debate to engage with people/users/customers

Yeah well that's how I talk to people who have attacked me in the past or who have trolled, posted loaded questions, false assumptions or generally people who have no real interest in discussion or the site.
That's exactly what that user did and he is only looking to bump his signature campaign post count.