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Quote from: BillyBurns on March 23, 2019, 02:03:00 PM

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Oh, Ryan. You never fail to amuse. Excellent detective work. I'd consider that pretty irrefutable proof that they're the same person.

Well Dean claims he has people working for him, so it's certainly possible BillyBurns is one. I do find it rather unlikely that he's some unbiased observer though Tongue

I don't think he's Dean but if you look at my post history I quoted a post from him where he was fed up with him and implied he's a scammer. It didn't take long for him to go from that to defending him. That could be for whatever reason...

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Quote from: BillyBurns on January 31, 2019, 03:39:51 PM

Quote from: theskillzdatklls on January 30, 2019, 10:00:01 PM

I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail.

Yeah I did say that and Dean saw that post and emailed me and I talked to him. All the information I was getting was speculation since nobody had any proof, I was angry at the time and came in here spewing because I was mad. When Dean emailed me I told him i was mad that the site seemed to be regressing games taken away, chat removed, exchange was made it seemed only for us to dump on it really did seem at the time he was sabotaging the site. He told me changes were coming and he is working as hard as he can to make it right. I told him I hope that was true, then a few weeks went buy and I noticed changes, site was looking the best it ever had, he even was answering noobs questions, chat came back. That was good enough for me to see that things were going in the right direction for once. Then I came back here and started reading all this non sense by all these users who don't know the difference between "Proof" and "speculation" and state "Opinions" as "Facts" all day everyday for a very long time.

It's funny to me, all these troll accounts act as if they care for the players or investors, but from what I have seen going on the people hurting the investors the most are the troll accounts here that are spreading "speculations" as :Truths:. Does anyone here think Dean is altering the rolls? Does Anyone here think he will exit scam on the current crowd funded bankroll? Does anybody here think Dean is to incompetent to secure player funds?

The issue here, in my opinion, is not the fact that he's trying now. It's the fact that from what I see investors are simply getting way worse of a deal than what it used to be. This seems pretty clear wouldn't you think? Instead of getting quarterly buy backs (which were assumed to be a certain price) you're getting what now? Dean says nobody lost anything but the fact that you're only able to either wait or sell for a MASSIVE loss... that seems like losing to me.

Also Dean seems to just simply be dodging some of the questions. Like how did the value drop if there were no massive wins on the site and what not?

I'm more of a bystander here and I've been observing all of this quite a bit but none of my money is at stake so take that as you please.

I know dude your not part of the troll group. I use to talk to you on bitdice a longtime ago in case you don't remember. The sportsbook was eating a lot of money (obviously a very bad choice) but dean was giving better odds to induce action but all that did was invite professional gamblers, wish I would have known that since I also profit from sports longterm could have warned him or taken some of the juicy action. As for being worse for investors that tricky because as you know bitdice hasnt done too stellar and I think a big reason is because you dont allow onsite investment anymore for anybody. I think this type of investment brings players and traffic and sometimes investors turn into players after they take some losses, so while yes were not the entirety of the house bankroll anymore for the longterm sake of the site I think it might just be better this way. From what Dean has said I believe developers and promos and advertising were eating up a lot of $ and not generating anything from them. I can vouch for the promos eating up a lot of money I know for a fact those daily poker tournaments were giving free money away several times a day and im sure it was adding up.