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Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? Cry

I think there is always a scapegoat in the community.

Who is the most violent perpetrator of the massacre? Who?

I Think "" Hitler "!!! He persecuted 6 million Jews. With that we blame the Christians for that ?, Hitler, He's Christian ,so because he persecutes the Jews, it does not mean all Christians are like that.

Then , How about Muslims? are they all terrorists? Are there organizations that want to create a " Muslims Phobia" ?
It is inappropriate for us fellow humans to hate and kill each other.

what do you think?

I'm more of an individualist myself. I don't like to smear people based on their belief systems / race / gender.

A typical example would be when I was younger our local shop was run by a family of Pakistani's. They didn't like to touch us when putting money in our hands and every time we walked into their shop they started talking in their native tongue. A few years later another Pakistani family bought the shop from the owners and their family were completely different. The owners shared beers with the locals in the local bar, their daughters were allowed to date whoever they wanted, and whenever we walked into their shop they swapped from their native tongue to English. Both families were Muslim. They may have both subscribed to the same belief sets but both families were guided by their own sense of morality and took a different aspect away from their belief.

Yes, there are bad Muslims. Yes, there are bad Christians. Yes, there are bad Atheists. Same with Liberals and Conservatives, they both have good and bad people in them - but to tar them all over the actions of other people is silly.

People are people. And span widely in beliefs, culture, even realities.

Stop blaming people.

You need to focus on ideology.

Islam is a very bad idea. Quran is a vile, supremacist book that leads otherwise good people to do some horrible things.

Oh I absolutely agree with that,

But it's the same with Christianity. If you read the Bible it's a vile supremacist book that leads otherwise good people to do horrible things. Doesn't mean everyone is running around stoning folks for working on Sunday.

All religions are fairy tales. Just because in one, a blind man flies to outer space on a winged horse does not justify another story where an old bearded guy created the universe in 6 days, 6000 years ago. They are all utterly ridiculous.

What we are talking about is Islamists. Why do they exist and what drives them to become Jihadists and eventually terrorists?

To me, it is clear that the Quran drives them to radicalize themselves.

Stay on the OP topic.

I am on the OP topic my friend.

There are radicals in every crazy ideology. This is what I was trying to put forth. Perhaps I can't profess to know every worldly event under the name of some crazy religious zealot because I only know those in my circle and that which the news reports to me.

But you can't just go around saying that All Muslims are terrorists because then you'd need to know EVERY Muslim and be inside each and every one of their heads. Otherwise then you would be ASSUMING all Muslims are terrorists.

I don't like to make assumptions because I'd have to know everything about everything. That would be a hard feat!

Who is saying 'all Muslims are terrorists'? In my previous post, I gave you my estimate on how many Muslims are terrorists (or Muslims who want to become martyrs), 5% in my estimation.