Quote from: Gridcoin on February 09, 2014, 03:36:53 PM

Quote from: aigeezer on February 08, 2014, 07:46:44 PM

Quote from: zulzedd on February 08, 2014, 07:20:07 PM

I wrote about same things about 2-3 weeks ago(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324118.msg4610130#msg4610130). I switched to pool mining yesterday and i see same - no payouts from pool, but i got 1 150 GRC payment, as if i solo mining. Previously i mined in pool for 3-4 days and was gettin payouts at 30-70 GRC after week (!) from when i started to mine in pool. I didn't calculadet profits, but seems pool mining working correctly, but with great latency because of Wallet Hour.

Thanks, zulzedd. I had forgotten about your earlier post - back then I had not yet tried pool mining so it went right over my head at the time.

Sounds like we have similar effects when pool mining. Did you notice whether the address your pool mining payouts went to was normal (presumably your default/leaderboard address)? Mine - only the one so far - showed as being sent to a receiving address I use for a different purpose, one that the mining pool presumably should not have been aware of. I'm now guessing it's a glitch in the wallet display - perhaps it shows "last referenced address" or some such thing.

I'll keep this machine in pool mode a while longer and see what develops.

All,

Regarding PoolMining:

I want to reiterate this: Its a huge risk for us to open Gridcoin to a standard pool: Its hard to enforce a network packet containing Boinc authenticity information and "believe" the pool operator is going to be trusted with that information; it opens us up to fraud. If that were NOT the case, I would add that to our spec and work with a pool mining operator. No one likes a central authority, so we built integrated pool mining inside the client.

In light of that, everyone liked the old integrated pool with the small payments - the only thing they hated was finding the first block. I viewed that as a miniscule problem; a training issue.

When we went to "Wallet Hour" payments to cut down on bloated wallets; everyone jumped ship and now we only have 23 pool miners.

The root of the problem is the current pool only pays you in your wallet hour when another pool miner finds a block. Its easy for a few of the pool miners to lose faith in it when a couple of days go by with no payments.

What I propose as a bridge between now and when we have 100+ pool miners is modifying the client to pay in 4 hour blocks; 2 hours before and 2 hours after the wallet hour. I think this will satisfy our pool miners for the time being.

What I also want to say about our integrity: I do not believe anyone has been ripped off- remember, any "advantage" or "disadvantage" is shared among the whole network; so no one is getting something in the pool and ripping other users. But I will do what I can to satisfy everyone.

So, as a stopgap I will modify the client to do the 4 hour window for now.

Grid

Thanks for the update. That's very useful to know. I was thinking the pool mining was buggy until I read your post because, after several days running nonstop, my mining module displays seven blocks accepted, no stales or invalid - but there were no payouts at all. I'll switch to the new version now and leave pool mining on a while longer.