Quote from: mikeywith on April 05, 2019, 12:38:12 AM

Quote from: eddie13 on April 05, 2019, 12:00:42 AM

I don't get your point here..

you talked about freedom, and i explained that every member on the forum poses the same level of freedom regardless of their position and score in the trust system.

How about freedom from harassment? How about some recent cases such as..
Weather or not to tag all lenders who take collateral accounts?
Weather or not to tag all sellers of facebook, twitter, and youtube accounts?
Tagging sold accounts on what evidence?
Tagging accounts based on their affiliation with lemons?
Red tags greatly diminish a users ability to trade and therefore restricts their freedom to trade here..

Quote from: mikeywith on April 05, 2019, 12:38:12 AM

The laws that are followed now came from old DT members , the majority of new DT1 and DT2 members are elected by old members, so if you trust their judgment then there is no reason to nag about new members.

The laws change here all the time, based on the current consensus of the community, now heavily DT1..
Their are current battles for/against new laws and will be into the future..
We need trusted freedom minded people to maintain just laws or the next thing you know DT will enforce KYC to have the privilege of a clear account..

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Satoshi should most definitely be DT1.. Are you kidding?

Quote from: mikeywith on April 05, 2019, 12:38:12 AM

Nop , i am not ! it's good to see you practice what you preach, just checked Satoshi's trust page and you have him in your trust list despite the fact that he has 0 feedback sent ,and most likely will never send any, you seem to be confusing trust list and DT to feedback and trustworthiness. having Satoshi in your trust list does nothing besides adding a new row into the forum's database.

but hey that's just my opinion, if you still insist that only old members should be on DT , you may very well sort all users by user's ID and include the first 100/1000/5000 members in your list.

Satoshi is on my trust list for the novelty and to show respect. What about all the users who have sent merit to Satoshi or positive trust?
I do not believe I am confused..

I don't think I said that only very old members should be on DT, but rather that very new members should possibly not be on DT1, and to be cautious of those who currently are..

Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2019, 12:54:02 AM

Quote from: eddie13 on April 05, 2019, 12:00:42 AM

You don't deserve to be on DT just by tagging scammers, or the opposite..

I would (obviously) disagree..

At one time DT was filled with people who cared about bitcoin.
Now it is filling with people who care about making money with bitcoin.

I think this is a misunderstanding.. I doubt that you believe everyone that tags scammers deserves to be on DT1, only for tagging scammers, by that metric only and ignoring all other circumstances..
I agree with your last 2 lines..

Quote from: bill gator on April 05, 2019, 12:55:47 AM

What exactly is the opposite of tagging scammers? Is it, being tagged by scammers?

A DT member that is not an active scambuster.. I don't believe you have to be an active scambuster or redtagger to be on DT..

Quote from: The Pharmacist on April 05, 2019, 01:02:43 AM

The problem with people getting on DT by way of scam-busting is that it doesn't really prove how honest that person is, and even though that is (I think) the reason I was put on DT, I still believe that. A member can easily just tag a lot of scammy accounts and work their way up to DT in order to pull off a really big scam. I don't know if that has actually been done, but it's possible. At least if you have a history of transactions involving money you could have scammed, there's some real basis for trust.

Assuming Satoshi was still around and hadn't scammed anybody, I have no doubt whatsoever that he'd be on DT1. And under those conditions, he'd deserve to be. If you can go 10 years without showing evidence of scamming behavior and you actually created bitcoin....yeah, that's DT material IMO.

This..