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Rest assured, the ONLY options which are presented for consideration are those amendable to corruption...

We only have 12 years left to live according to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...

Have you paid your Carbon Taxes lately? Participating on a popular forum like bitcoinalk has an irreversible impact on the polar manbearpig population living inside Al Gore's pocket.

Pay up, do it for the children...

Note that we ARE NOT TOLD to worry about asteroids destroying the Earth, or about Carrington/EMF events. I conclude that not only are the only SOLUTIONS presented for consideration are those amendable to corruption, but the only PROBLEMS we are told to worry about are those amendable to corruption.

You can force people to pay a tax for an invisible threat. It is impossible to do so for a total civilization killer event everyone can see approaching day by day. The corrupted rats are always the first in their elite underground bunker anyway. It is by design.

The Derinkuyu underground city. It was built for specific reasons. Only a guess to why such gargantuan work had to be done, but I guess there are rooms ready for AOC and Al Gore...

Neither asteroids nor Carrington/EMF events represent certain total civilization killers.

Asteroids vary in size and hence in effect, widely. There are countless more 100 meter sized rocks that are a threat than 1 km sized. In all cases, though, they are fairly easily handled 10-100 years in advance. It's fairly true to say they cannot be diverted or destroyed on the final swing inbound even with the largest hydrogen bombs. Also we have not developed delivery systems to handle these threats. ICBMs won't do it.

EMF threats from enemy nation states have known radius in which electronics is destroyed. Infrastructure can be hardened, few or no nations have done that. Recently Trump ordered it for the USA.

Carrington events AFAIK do not present a known scale of intensity, because we understand solar thermodynamics very poorly at this time. These events might affect a part of the planet, or the largest part, depending on several factors. Hardened infrastructure is the solution here, even if a country does not have an enemy that presents a nuclear threat.

It does appear that the alarmists of climate doom, their paid Internet posters and their countless sock puppets, are a pretty cheap investment to keep the public from actually thinking their way through realistic wide scale threat scenarios and likelihoods.

I made a joke about the planet being 6000 years old here somewhere. This is the classic, tired old joke some people make against Christians and their Bible. A few days later I realized the oldest modern civilization known from historic facts was the Sumerian's. Beginning around 5,500 years ago... Göbekli Tepe maybe 12000 years old but we don't know much about it (by design?).
It is strange that glimpses of what we know as 'Technology' and our thirst to understand our reality started less than 13000 years ago, and our written history 6000 years ago. Before that we were what... Totally stupid, running around naked being eaten alive by giant moths? Yet we are the same humans with the same brain size for at least 50000 years or way more.

Memory loss.
A civilization dies with its last survivor and its knowledge accumulated inside him/her. Other humans across the world will be fine surviving. It does not have to be a massive solar flare or an impact from outer space to kill a civilization.

The Story of the Great Influenza Pandemic of 1918.....

I get your main point. Getting paid to keep people locked in the killing field of lies, deception and darkness may be a strange occupation in life at first, but it is simply part of human nature.
We can't control our ultimate demise, but we can feel like we can control others before everything ends for us...

Yes and no and sort of. Examples.

We're not losing the art of making fire, gunpowder, IC engines, many things.

Consider. I have wikipedia, 90+gb, on a device. (kiwix.org) worried about the end of the world because of solar flares? Put that device in a tin can, along with a solar panel, seal the tin can. Done. Wikipedia survives solar flares.

I thought about the bio issues but did not include them, yet the answer is likely the same. Until and unless people take control of such things, and put the knowledge in permanent blockchains not secreted by one government or another, high levels of risk exist, both in the possible events that may happen, and in the response to them.

There will be a need to keep critical engineers inside secret tin cans too if we want to keep nuclear power stations from melting down, or future curious teenagers from locked CDC bio hazard labs. We would need a couple more solar panels buried too because of their degradation.

If we think a few years after the event, then yeah everything will be more than OK. If we think in centuries then I don't think much past knowledge would survive.
Right now how many people do you know personally who can start a fire from scratch? How many people can hunt for food? Yes we get some good knowledge with Wiki, only if we are ready before everybody else pulls out their solar powered Wiki after the event. It would be too late by then.

Today's school system is not created to push for basic knowledge, but for total obedience of the masses through ignorance. What would happen if a million starving humans find out you are the only one able to restart the factory, thanks to your working Wiki machine?

Critical info is here permanently and isn't going away. One copy of wikipedia can be a million copies in a few days. The survivalist who is proud he can twirl sticks and make fire is simply wrong. The schools are simply irrelevant.

The disasters of which we speak require considerable care and advance planning. That's not happening and it's likely governments can not be trusted to do it. A typical number quoted for a Carrington event that caused across the board power grid shutdowns in the US is 90% of the population dead within the year. That's preventable. A hundred meter rock hitting a populated area would create a two mile wide crater and a blast wave that would decimate a hundred square miles. That rock can be nudged if it's done 10-20 years in advance.

These issues are not being discussed and public attention is focused on some Climate Apocalypse storyline that's been ten years off for four decades. It's not only a scam in it's own right but is directing attention away from real issues.

The past is proof the people in power do care about being ready for such event (cold war bunkers, etc). The only problem is we, the people, are not part of their plan for Earth 2.0. As you said 99% would be wiped out. 1%? That's still of lot of people to feed and protect from winter in their calculation. The less we, the people, know about basic survival skills the better the odds are for them, the people in power. These issues cannot be discussed and public attention is focused on cat videos, selfies and silly pranks on twitter.

By design.