Quote from: notbatman on April 11, 2019, 09:54:04 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 11, 2019, 11:44:57 AM

Quote from: notbatman on April 11, 2019, 11:00:31 AM

^^^ Special Relativity has been falsified, deal with it.

Because... you say so? Where is the evidence for that? I googled what you said and I saw no results supporting your statements, even if there was 1 or 2 sites somewhere saying that, why should we trust them? Are you a scientist? How are you judging their results?

In 1939 Dufour & Prunier performed a replication of the Sagnac Experiment that accounted for rotating frames of reference and it falsified special relativity. This is where the theoretical argument for gravity and black holes ends. There's no retreating to Newtonian gravity either, it's over.

The point is that Special Relativity hasn't been completely falsified. Certain aspects of it work, while other aspects don't.

There are any number of theories that work in different ways than Specialized Relativity, but get the job done the same as SR. Quantum Theory is one of them. Electric universe is another.

What's the reason for this? The reason is that Sagnac, just like SR and other theories, don't take into account what the aether really is. You and I both don't know completely what it really is. But it is easy to see some of the basics of it that you are missing.

The aether is a non-material, non-energy, flexible, elastic solid that carries energy and material along in the ways the laws of physics dictate that they should go. The aether caries energy along like the air carries sound, but in a much more complex way.

Most theories, including SR and what Sagnac did, don't have enough aether mechanics built in to make them 100% fact.

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