Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on April 15, 2019, 05:16:03 AM

Quote from: amishmanish on April 12, 2019, 03:20:28 AM

When the K. Kamaraj faction was kicked out; politics, bureaucracy and whole Indian polity was left open to the scourge of sycophancy and corruption. Indian bureaucrats in Pre-Independence and up unitl Nehru era used to be men of honor with a firm belief in the Indian identity and the need to take all people together for socio-economic reform.

Since you blamed that only the post Nehru era is opportunistic i would like to mention why the split happened between Pakistan and India, Jinnah was a prominent leader during the pre independence era and he was the top leaders in INC and we all know what happened when Jinnah was arrested by the British, there was an entire shift in politics with religious polarization being the topic on who will head the movement forward and those factions led to the split. If not for the opportunistic shift in power in the name of religious polarization there is no way that would happen in my opinion.

PS: I am not into any political affiliation but stated what i read from historical data which is available.

You are right about the political machinations that lead Jinnah losing prominence in INC. It was differences of political methods between Jinnah and Gandhi-followers. Jinnah's approach was the sophisticated, anglophile one of securing "political concessions" within the fold of British and gradual independence. Gandhi on the other hand proved to be politically much more cunning and in touch with the Indian masses as he touched a cord with his "going back to roots" philosophy. This is what truly made it a mass movement as the faithful, poor masses submitted themselves to the bhajan singing Mahatma.

We cannot blame anyone particularly for the religious polarization though. It was fanned by the British and both Hindu and Muslim leaders played in their hands. As history would have it, Jinnah himself became the catalyst as he put up his demand for a separate nation and choosing to use faith as the motivation to rally Muslims (probably taking a leaf from Gandhi's book).

Sure Pre-nehru era had its fault .Yet, i am talking about the way that not just politics but more importantly, bureaucracy and general public life fell to sycophancy and opportunism once the prodigious daughter came into her own. She was the one who committed the original sins in Judiciary (Appointment of A N Ray as CJI bypassing the senior most bench judges), declared Emergency. This solidified the thought process that you can have your own way if you have enough political power or know the right people.

Quote from: eaLiTy on April 15, 2019, 04:12:04 PM

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What i was trying to tell is that, there might be a few people in an ocean that are pure to their heart on what they do, but the majority are corrupt and only when the majority is true to what they do, you wont see any change.

Politics maybe a cesspool of corruption but this constant refrain against politics has not helped us so I just wish to point out the positives. The majority will always be corrupt and suffer from moral degradation but it is always that one man or that small group of person chipping against oppression and injustice that deliver change. Gandhi, MLK Jr, Nelso Mandela, were all drops in the ocean..

So we should also focus on them rather than the collective..