Quote from: TMAN on May 04, 2019, 05:43:49 AM

Quote from: theymos on May 04, 2019, 05:07:09 AM

- Forgiveness: Often people make fairly small mistakes, but then they seemingly get red-trusted for life. This isn't really fair, and it discourages participation due to paranoia: if you think that you have a 1% chance of running afoul of some unwritten rule and getting red-trusted for life, you might just avoid the marketplace altogether. Red trust should mostly be based on an evaluation of what the person is likely to do in the future moreso than a punishment/mark-of-shame.

Plenty of people are forgiven for small issues and as I saw you point out before CH is a prime example of someone who would of had tags removed after a few months of cooling down, but the verbal diarrhea that we end up reading ends up cementing the tags as accurate - I mean who would actually willing transact with that fool now?

Your post is riddled with stupidity. The fact it has any merit at all demonstrates the stupidity and misleading nature of the merit system.

1. the system FAILS by allowing persons like cryptohunter to have ever been red tagged initially.

Let's analyse the situation.

Lauda come to cryptohunters threads and calls him a liar 3x each time Ch request the presentation of these lies. Lauda never presents any. Cryptohunter frustrated at this and KNOWING FULL WELL lauda had lied that he was on the xcoin (now dash) launch and there was no premine. A lie that cryptohunter and his friends later proved was a total lie which lauda was telling people because he had bags of darkcoin at that time (they altered the name), he was lying to entice more investors and hide the fact the project was almost completely centralized in terms of distribution and control. Later the dev offered a 2 000 000 000 USD value compensation air drop to the board to make up for the scamming start (they claimed fair launch no premine and then did a huge captive instamine). Cryptohunter knew this because he WAS on the launch.

So all cryptohunter said to lauda was " if you keep calling me a liar with no evidence and will not present any then I will make a thread investigating your own past (because he knew he could demonstrate lauda lied and scammed)

1/Lauda then gives him red trust. (SO RED TRUST FOR WHISTLE BLOWING ON A LIAR AND SCAMMER??)

Cryptohunter then gets pissed of and starts presenting more observable instances about this and other DIRTY looking deeds from lauda.

2/Tman shows up and adds red trust, and we believe owlcatz did too (however it appears they removed it - looked like too much collusion otherwise ) Cryptohunter says to Tman. You can not leave me red trust for presenting facts and observable instances. Tman says " I can I will and I just have, if you don't like it......"

SO RED TRUST AGAIN FOR PRESENTING FACTS AND OBSERVABLE INSTANCES OF WRONG DOING. He later pretends it is because of some foul language and swearing the pissed of cryptohunter laced in with his facts about lauda making him insane "apparently"

But when he starts spouting swearing and sexual deviance it is poetry ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0
Demonstrates robovac will try to spin a positive light on anything his dumb pals say or do.

Cryptohunter then tells TMAN remove that red trust for presenting facts or else I'll just keep highlighting this trust abuse.

3/ Yogg another colluder who you notice shows up to back up much of their trust abuse then says

Is you use the words "or else" that is blackmail and extortion an he adds additional red trust.

We can observe there that red trust was being abused. Cryptohunter has NO NEED to be nice about it and apologize. The system failure is allowing it to be left for these reasons.

Scammers and those implicated in extortion and other financially motivated untrustworthy behaviors DO NOT get to use red trust to silence whistle blowing or crush free speech as they see fit. Blacklist these scum before they leverage their DT and green to do more damage.

The entire system is a sham.

Scammers / those that pose financial risk to this board should have red not walk around with 300 GREEN trust. It is disgusting and is leaving the entire board vulnerable to the very most dangerous.

Who would transact with cryptohunter?? Well since he purchased nxt the day after launch, was an original nem stake holder, a launch day miner for the majority of wave 1 alts, picked 6 of the top 10 rising coins in the last wave and has threads started by others thanking him for his tips that turned them from nothing to millionaires. Then I guess that is not going to be much of a scam risk since he never bothered to buy or sell anything here and is already wealthy. Can you show even 1 instance of anywhere where cryptohunter has any financially motivated dirt on him?? NO because he always fights for others to have a fair shot at things.

Who would transact with TMAN? ran an auction through a proxy pal (another DT) and tried to talk the price up pretending it was not his auction. Phones someones parents up probably trying to extort them. Observably colluding with other scammers and trying to silence whistle blowers. Would you give your address to someone that has apparently already tried to use this kind of information as leverage to extort btc out of them? Well you might but some scum bag hiding in Bulgaria a place notorious for that type of person.

There can be no doubt that the PROBLEM here is not peoples attitudes after they have been trust abused and their free speech threatened. The PROBLEM is that it is permitted to be used as a weapon to control people free speech and attitudes. If they are NOT scammers they do NOT GET red trust in the first place. We've heard rumors of people charging for getting red removed. Red trust if not used within STRICT guidelines is very dangerous for the board.

Anyone who can not present a strong case for FINANCIAL danger in the case of that MEMBER can NOT have red trust. If they can not present a case within 24 hours the are blacklisted from DT if the red still stay there.

The prevention of trust abuse is key. There is no point of all these appeals. People getting trust abused are going to kick off. After that point it just becomes a personal grudge on both sides.

Theymos needs to make it clear. Give red trust to a person who you can not present is a scammer then you get black listed. In any other form DT is dangerous and poses grave risk to this board.

To be honest even ALLOWING people on DT1 who have any observable instances of clear financially motivated wrong doing should be black listed. You simply can not have scammers and extortionists on DT1. It is ridiculous.