Quote from: Vod on May 05, 2019, 01:03:20 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on May 04, 2019, 11:32:05 AM

That's never going to happen on a big forum: by the time some users have given up responding to a troll, other users will notice it for the first time and try to reason with him again until they too give up and are replaced by someone else.

Perfect example: Flat Earth thread. Almost 800 pages of garbage! The OP has every lie debunked a thousand times, but new users keep pointing out the same lies.

Why doesn't Theymos do his part and shut down obvious troll threads?

The funny thing here is that LoyceV is accusing cryptohunter of "trolling" (the boards fav term for something they can not even agree on a definition for when he provided them the opportunity to in his they see me trollin they hatin thread) apparently the trolling is his message that the trust system is a broken mess that can not be fixed. Since that is his main gripe.

Vod clearly agrees, as you can see he is claiming he wants to "defriend" and red trust lauda or others in his gang but he dare not because he correctly realizes they will use red trust in reprisal. Therefore Red trust clearly silences whistle blowing on scammers. IT FACILITATES SCAMMING at the highest level. There is no other way to see it. So now VOD you are trolling according to loyceV, your message is the same.

Instead of moving the topic to "trolling", let's keep it on TRUST APPEALS - which there should be no need of because if you need to prove someone is a scammer or provide a strong case they have scammed or intend to scam to give red trust OR YOU ARE BLACKLISTED. Then all you will need to do is say present the proof or STRONG case and if they can NOT then the red trust has to be removed. NO paying people to remove the red trust, no free speech getting crushed to remove the red trust.

It was a very poorly conceived system because it is based upon the reasoning that everyone is going to act as perfectly and unselfishly as possible and not even consider colluding, WHEN THERE ARE CLEAR FINANCIAL MOTIVES for being selfish and abusing it. It is the most crazy trust system you could ever dream up. I mean that and it is based upon the even more crazy , misleading and dangerous merit system. There are only 2 options.

1. scrap it all
2. Put down strict rules as mentioned above for using red trust and blacklist those that try to use it for their own reasons outside of that. Whilst making sure observable scammers and those with ANY financially motivated dirt AT ALL in their past are removed and blacklisted as soon as they are noticed.

As we have said before the "possible" meager benefits of ANY trust system over a warning on ALL accounts that they MAY scam you, are crushed to negative when the implications for free speech are taken into account and the way red trust can Facilitate scamming and crush whistleblowing. It is like every other system that satoshi is AGAINST the people at the TOP can abuse it. Whilst everyone else is at their mercy and have to kiss ass and adopt their views, or beg to stay red trust free.

If VOD (one of self proclaimed POLICE of this board) feels he is too scared to red tag scammers like lauda or his pals because they will red trust and burn his account back what fucking hope is there for this board? Without rules even DT members are scared of tit for tat on their accounts. Perhaps this is why they look like such a bunch of cowards and ass kissers. Then again they could just be weak and pathetic individuals that will just allow the all board members to be placed in vulnerable positions so they may avoid red tags or not being popular.

Cryptohunter never supported scammers ever. He never saw any proof any of them were scammers. Regardless of which if a scammer rightly noticed the trust system was broken and used as a weapon to silence whistle blowers then agreeing and supporting that view is the correct action to take. If a scammer says something like " the earth is spheroid" and other people voice opinions "the earth is a cube" then you support the spheroid claim.