Quote from: loshia on February 12, 2014, 07:31:56 AM

Quote from: RWmax on February 12, 2014, 07:24:54 AM

Quote from: loshia on February 12, 2014, 06:18:07 AM

Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on February 11, 2014, 09:07:01 PM

Quote from: sirminesalot on February 11, 2014, 09:02:02 PM

I know the details of their business are shady, that is why I'm asking they post PICTURES of all the chips, boards, power supplies and cases. We can debate the other things until the cows come home - but if they provide actual photos of all the hardware they have been purchasing to build these miners out, it will put everyone (including myself) at ease.

This isn't an unrealistic request. GET TO IT!

There's a photo of batch #1 that shows clearly that there at least 1,500 coincraft A1 chips. At say 40 chips per machine, that makes about 37 units.

40 chips per machine for 1.2 TH?

That is a joke dude that makes about 2.4Kw at the wall.

or put 80 chips per machine to reduce power - not going to happen
They should split that and deliver two machines instead of one Grin

One for living room and one for dining room connected to separate fusses Grin

and the beauty is that when you need to turn on your oven, washing machine, air conditioner or whatever you will need need to turn off your AMT machine. Grin

Apart of the jokes for all you who are waiting for the AMT machines. Do you homework and be prepared for huge power draw for 1.2 TH check your fuses, wires in your homes in advance and make sure you can provide enough power for this beasts in advance! In order to continue to live like a human using your tv, washing machine and so on when you need/want to

I am wandering what they are producing actually at full speed Grin

And what they will deliver next Week as promised?
And why they do skip such a simple questions about power draw, chip count per device and so on.
Before going to production a prototype is needed a hashing one. Did they skip this part at all? Do they have a prototype before production?
Any way we will wait and see.............
PS: I am still taking bets about power
Are some brave guy's here who want to make quick money Grin

I'll take that bet. I'll bet 1btc they come in at 1w per ghs or under at nominal speed with a 10-20% increase overclocked.

The minimum is 7 btc 1:3 bet seven and earn 21 dude.

Have in mind that we are talking for 1.2T MASS SHIPPED units only. I do not care if they are overclocked with 40 chips inside or they are underclock with 200 chips inside. Up to AMT. in theory they can make it for a prototype but in practice they will deliver 1.7W.Gh at least

so my conditions are:

I bet 21BTC you bet 7 BTC if i loose you get 21. if i win i get 7. And bet is 1.2 TH unit consuming 600W at the wall. To make it easier for you we will take 900w AMT highest expectations so we are talking about 900W at the wall
Do you take it?
PS:
900W at the wall means 0.75W/GH just the chip data sheet power about 1V Grin

Complete Nonsense!!!!!!!
Or i propose to make a group bet then. Collect 7 btc and let me know. then you will split my 21 between all participants Grin

PS:
You have a slight chance to win if your power supply company provides you with 1V DC instead of 120/220 AC Grin

I am wandering what is the voltage in your home at the wall 1V DC Grin

I guess no but miracles still do happen Cheesy

And RWmax went offline Cry

First off Loshia, something i've wanted to mention for a while is how you use the expression "at the wall", which is really "to the wall", and comes from the expression "balls to the wall", which is an expression used to represent acceleration or "full throttle" which was created by pilots who would push the throttle lever (the ball) to the point where it actually touches the panel (the wall). And we know you mean it from a consumption standpoint of course, I just wanted to throw that out there. Say "to the wall".

I think the 600W to 900W quote is a bit unrealistic yes. But I also think your 1.7W is a bit too much. That why i said i'd bet on 1w/ghs nominal and 1.3w overclocked or "to the wall". And yes this will be from the miners AMT ships, not demo's of course.

If you really want to make it interesting we could a .4w over/under 1.1w/ghs spread bet with a parlay for hashrate expectancy. What do you think?