Quote from: disdaniel on May 12, 2019, 06:45:58 AM

Been betting 1 token on either high or low,

I could only do runs of 120 bets at a time since the list of token transaction stops loading after 120
and since (wonder why) there is no roll statistics statistics it had to be manually counted.
They are done with a couple of hours in between.

so 10 sequences 120 rolls each

1:
101 lost
19 win

2:
97 lost
23 won

3:
96 lost
24 won

4:
87 lost
33 won

5:
100 lost
20 won

6:
102 lost
18 win

7:
107 lost
13 win

8:
100 lost
20 win

9:
97 lost
23 won

:
93 lost
27 won

that's an average of under 20% wins over 1200 rolls.

To give you an example when a coin toss simulator was used to do rounds of 32 tosses x 50.000 times there was exactly 6 rounds that had less than 20% heads or tails
so 6 in 50.0000 32 toss rounds had a win rate of 20% or less.

My rolls where 120 meaning you should expect an even more uniform result closer to 50% than the 32 rolls.

6 chance in 50.0000 and I get the same abnormal low win rate every time, 10 times in a row, the probability of that happening by chance is almost nonexistent, not just
the very low win rate but the consistency is really weird too, during a span of 12 hours i did this little experiment.
win-ratio between 20 and 30 out of 120.

Take a look on this lil praph
https://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/figures/bd128.png

its from when they did 128 flips in a row showing how many ended up being 64 heads or tails and then how it rapidly decreases,
take a look over at the number 40 as in 40 out of 128.. zero probability 30? even less probability 20% where i am at is the absolutely zero chance of that happening zone.
and the chance of something that incredible happening 10 times in a row is supernaturally uncommon..

Im sure ppl will question my results. however what could my motivation be? i dont run any dice site, i have nothing personal to
gain by badmouthing them. I am just a consumer who dislikes to get ripped off and then told im a foilhat wearing idiot.

statistics lifted from this page btw
https://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/statistics.html

Now with their bonus system, IF it really was 0% house edge and fair etc you would have the strongest advantage over the house
ever heard of in gambling history.

1000 rolls gives you 100 coins in bonus, after this rolls the most probable result is the house having won
500 and you 600 effectively giving you an 8% edge during those first 1000 rolls
then you get 200 for 3000 rolls lowering your edge to 6% but that still more of an edge than any
casino ever have (its normally between 1 and 3% total) and casinos make a LOT of money..

But since these jokers numbers are supposedly the exact opposite of every money making casino in the world (with about 3.5-5% extra loss percent added on to that!) they should
by unquestionable logic be loosing a money at a rate twice as fast as casinos make money... not bloody likely.

Someone skilled enough to build and code a site/faucet system etc etc is really supposed to be that stupid, a math retard with never ending resources to cover up their insane losses?
Do you really believe that?

Or does it make more sense if, as my experiment
shows, they do in fact lie about a rather substantial edge? as in 25/75

What do you think, all the ppl angry over being ripped off are crazy AND the the owners have the business sense of mentally challenged squirrels?
or there might there be no smoke without fire, they are lying and ripping ppl off. just making sure their paying a majority so they will drown out the desperate
robbed victims.. if you get paid you love the site and your greed will often make sure you do nothing to jeopardize your cash cow, even if you might
honestly know that yeah.. something is up.

BUT THAT IS NOT ALL!!!! WOhoooo! MORE RAMBLING BS FROM BITTER DUDE!

There is UNDISPUTED proof available that they have been involved in ripping ppl off:

You might or might not remember how they used to run a lot of adds for the scam site bitcoin generator, the setup was thos: you send about 0.002 bitcoin then they would "generate" 0.1 bitcoin and send to your wallet.
People gullible enough not to question why the owners didn't just generate bitcoin for themselves until they owned the world obviously lost their 0.0002 bitcoins.

The scam site instructed you to send the money to a wallet address that then automatically sent it to the next wallet which has been proven to be owned by moon bitcoin aka coin pot ppl.. Now that IS a REAL scam,
not just misplaced money or transfers getting sent to the wrong address etc.. its them telling you to send them money for something they never intend to send you
pure 100% no discussion fraud, not even a ponsi scheme etc, worse.. pure no silver lining theft.

The stolen funds goes moon faucet owned wallet. again, who else except scammers would be involved in a scam that elaborate? noone..

No way ever to explain away that, they where involved enough to receive the money, consider that before automatically dismissing every person that feel ripped off.
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-generator-exploit-scam-clears-thousands

Just because they've paid you doesnt mean they're not ripping someone else off.. in fact that's how to make sure your scam is not an overnight thing but something
bringing cash for a long time, you pay a majority that will then defend you when the real victims complain.

More often than not the victims are from third world countries lacking the resources to do much at all about it, all of a sudden
their funds are gone, they never received owed transfers or they simply get band for being scammers themselves, very convenient

also take a look at all the ads they happily post all over their sites (via mellow adds, same ppl) about half at any given day
is for obvious scams no honest business man or women would dream of being associated with ever. these guys are less
sensitive to their members being ripped of by the scam adds they make money off (and as proven above sometimes they even are actively involved in)

Finally while typing this is started the multiplier, had 300 tokens, sat it to do nothing, just bid one token per round..
with no house edge i should after 550 rolls have a little less or a little more than 300 tokens left since its a even edge
how many do you think i have left? 0
In 550 rolls i lost 300 tokens.. in fact i could go back and look at the last 138 rolls... 107 losses 31 wins.. in line with every other sequence of rolls.. to make it simple about
25%^ chance of winning.. scamming scumbags

im gonna have to call bullshit on this one
you havent provided any evidence here - anyone could just post up a load of number and graphs and claim anything they wanted
this is just as believable as people who claim the opposite, ie that they have come up with some wonder-strategy to beat the odds and can guarantee you can make money, so long as you "buy their system" for $100 or something!
its provably fair for gods sake. im no Einstein but i have a good understanding of math and i can see that their provably fair system is completely transparent and i cant see how they can cheat it. you have complete control over your client seed, and whether you bet high/low, etc each roll. its just not mathematically possible for them to fake a roll to force you to lose. and if they did this they would quickly get caught out with some concrete evidence of this happening.
i see similar baseless allegations being thrown over in the Freebitco.in thread - its usually just people who have been (genuinely) unlucky with the multiplier, or have been caught out trying some scam or other - so they try to spread FUD about the site
all my dealing with coinpot have been great, ive played the multiplier a bit - sometimes won, sometimes lost - which is fine
they are very clear that they make money (and cover the cost of their challenges thing) via the banner advertising

as for you stuff about the scam adverts, i cant really comment on those as i never use these investment systems. but yes im aware that some of them turn out as scams. but unless you have some evidence that coinpot is somehow involved with this then it does seem a bit tinfoilhat-ish