Quote from: suchmoon on May 12, 2019, 05:14:57 PM

Quote from: bill gator on May 12, 2019, 03:54:27 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on May 12, 2019, 02:13:10 PM

Make sure to apply the same high standards when Og's lapdog doxes random people for spurious reasons, even outside of Investigations.

I don't even know what you're talking about, we're not all as involved, but I happily would apply the same standards to anybody DOXing anyone for any purpose other than it is necessary for the forwarding of a proper investigation.

Quicksy doxing owlcatz as an example. Every piece of shit scammer doxing Vod for any reason or no reason at all. Not a peep from any of you outraged citizens. Because we all think that Vod doesn't keep 500 BTC under his mattress, is that what it is?

Quote from: bill gator on May 12, 2019, 03:54:27 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on May 12, 2019, 02:13:10 PM

Merit is not an encouragement or anything of the sort. It's an opinion at most, and not necessarily an opinion agreeing with the post being merited. Let's calm down with the exaggerations.

Merit is not an opinion. You can give merit out based on your opinion, but it is not in itself an opinion. Merit is a +1 that enables users to rank-up, which would mean it is an incentive for whatever they have posted to earn that merit. I guess when you give a dog a treat, you're not necessarily agreeing with their opinion, but you are encouraging them to do whatever they think they did to earn that treat. The dog wants their next snack, like a newbie wants their rank-up.

Meriting definitely doesn't mean that you condemn the post. The post should have been universally condemned, and any defense for this kind of behavior is the problem right now.

Ok, now we're splitting hairs - if I say "I think this is a good post" - is that my opinion or my words based on my opinion? Makes no difference to me. The rank-up thing is a nice bonus but doesn't have to enter the decision process of the merit sender. Agreeing or disagreeing with the recipient is irrelevant.

There is a bit more to the scale than just "CONDEMN" and "ENCOURAGE". I disagree with the dox. I wouldn't have merited that post. But I don't think those who merited that post deserve red trust and I'm disappointed in teeGUMES' (and yours) continuing mental gymnastics trying to blow this out of proportion. I refuse to start sweating for the 15k merits I sent so that someone somewhere could find one of them objectionable and decide to red trust me for that.

The question here now becomes what have the long term DT1 members been doing about this rampant doxxing? Has there not been a large enough stance taken on it to prevent future doxxing? Obviously not with all these examples you and Lauda are bringing up.

My record is 1-0 currently. I was only DT1 for a week, but I seen something wrong and I decided to do something about it. In the end I achieved what I set out to do and the post was deleted. If I'm never DT again I wouldn't care, in my very short time I have done more to set a precedent against doxxing than any of you have in the long time you've held your position. It's just unfortunate some highly valued members decided merit for doxx was an okay thing to do.