Quote from: The Pharmacist on May 15, 2019, 04:30:47 PM

Just to clarify, because I haven't read all the posts and threads in this drama: what would Vod be getting a pass on? Did he dox OgNasty? Did he report him to the IRS? I may have missed where these things actually happened, or the posts might have been deleted before I read them. I read a bunch of threats on Vod's part, but I'm not sure what he actually did. And are the huge merit grants part of this issue or what?

I'm not trying to shut down discussion on this. On the contrary, I think it should be discussed until there's a resolution. I'm not playing ignorant, either. I have a tendency to skim threads, but in the ones involving Vod and OgNasty I did read them but don't know what Vod's offense was. I know he thinks OgNasty is cheating the IRS and was going to report him, but while that's controversial within this community it's not exactly wrong (if it's true).

I too haven't catch up with what happened and the original thread might have been deleted but theymos' post gave a brief background on what happened.

Post by theymos

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142064.msg51007199#msg51007199

I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where:
- The evidence was very thin.
- Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
- The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
- It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.

It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.

Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant. But I tend to think that since he edited his post and seems to genuinely regret at least the public doxxing part, it'd be best to forgive.

For the meriters, I can understand the argument for red-trust, but I tend to think that it's at the wrong level. If the meriter was meriting it because they were actively thinking, "I want to make the forum really vicious, where everyone is constantly tearing each other apart for stupid things, and this post moves in that direction," even that's not really a trust-relevant motive, just a very unhelpful motive. And probably the meriters were thinking more innocent things than that.

So from my understanding Vod may have shown public information about OgNasty with regards to the allegation he is involved it and got red tagged from it as well as the ones who have sent merit/s from the post, all tags were sent by teeGUMES. So with the long discussion involve and even though theymos supported and gave a green light to the red tag for Vod, teeGUMES had spoke to Vod privately and fix some things that lead to the removal of the red tags for both Vod and the merit senders.

Post by teeGUMES

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142064.msg51007906#msg51007906

After having a grown up conversation with Vod, we both understand eachother's side and have had the edited dox post in Investigations deleted. I have removed my red ratings from the merit posters. If a different tool were available to achieve this same effect I would have used it, it was never my intention to tarnish the great work that the four individuals do every day on this forum. If no tool ever appears I will act no differently in the future, your exclusions may remain and you will not be excluded in retaliation.

Summary

The Dox has been removed
Vod has been contacted by teeGUMES
The conversation may have ended in good terms that result into the removal of the red tags