Quote from: The Avenger on February 12, 2014, 11:53:29 PM

Quote from: Biffa on February 12, 2014, 11:47:18 PM

No is speculation that they will do that, all we have heard it's that they are building a mine for the purposes of providing either compensatory hash rate to their customers if Neptune is late or if said customers would prefer to switch from hardware customer to cloud customer. You are adding your own spin on the concept to make it appear in a negative light.

We'll need some input from Swedish speaking members, but this looks like video from the new datacentre.

With machines hashing already. Mining the bitcoins to compensate the Neptune customers in July Biffa?

Not more than 5% though, of course.

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.2276893-datorhall-for-bitcoin-byggs-i-boden

Med vänlig hälsning

Having watched the video now, that is very interesting and definitely not speculation. It will be interesting to see if KnC sources an provide a response, or if they even care to.

As to my agenda, I'm just a customer and miner like anyone else, I have some KnC, some Ants, even some GPU's running scrypt. I don't have any allegiance to a particular vendor, or work for any of them. I'm perhaps more willing to give some companies the benefit of the doubt than others in this thread but I think, hopefully, I'm considered by most to be even handed and reasonable, even helpful sometimes, if anyone doubts my agenda, its easy to see in my post history

KnC has done nothing wrong to me either in the past or up till now, they sold me what I asked for and it has performed to spec, heck even above spec.

Plus, I don't even fault them for building this cloud hashing farm as I think that they have to compete somehow with all the other farms coming online both for their customers and to a certain extent for themselves.

As to their motives and current standing, I still feel that we are swinging in the dark here and we could be hitting or missing with our conjecture, it would be good if someone could get a clear and concise message from the company as to what is going on.

So, so far, we know they have a farm, we know its populated with KnC 28nm hardware, and in the video we can see is 21 racks with 4 shelves in populated per rack with 6 modules per rack, in two rows. Or somewhere between 150,000-200,000 GH (21x4x6x2x170GH), its very cleverly shot to impress but also to not show everything.

From me the speculation is still:

Is the hardware there new, or have they moved their old hosting to this new location, or moved other large customers equipment there?
If new, is it designed specifically for this purpose, i.e. not compatible with their consumer model miners?
How much of that is hashing live on the network and how much was turned on just to test for the video?
If hashing, what percentage is directly for KnC themselves

I'd still like to know definitively when is the date that Neptune will be considered late. I think its important for KnC to divulge that information ASAP so that people can make an informed decision about what to do regarding their orders.

For now I'm still gonna hold fire with my orders, and keep pushing through official channels to get some info to feed back to the forum.

Lastly I'd like to say thank you edgar, I get where you are coming from and understand your motives even if I don't agree with your methods

And Avenger, great detective work, gotta hand it to you, you certainly keep everyone thinking and the old brain cogs whirring can't be a bad thing at my age

You will note that even if I don't always agree with you guys, its obvious your not ignored and I will keep listening and taking in your findings.