Quote from: Thekees on May 22, 2019, 08:51:34 PM

As a WEC attendee do you receive and examples or training on how to use the socrates system? Are you taught how to use the array, Directional changes panic cycles in combinations with the reversals, what about the energy and indicating ranges, pivot points technical levels, does anyone use these?
There is a guide and old posts but you really have to look for the information on the website to try and figure it all out, and as you can see here there is a lot of discussion but there is no real agreement on how it all works.

Just curious what the wec people get what we don´t, maybe with that it clears up a lot.

thanks

I posted this link before, and I'm not sure why no one reads it. But here is the cut & paste of just some of the contents from that link, where somebody posted comments about Armstrong's conference. Boldface is my highlights:

https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=694414

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I did attend Martin Armstrong conference couple years ago and believe me its a complete scam.

For 2 days he is going to repeat what you can read on his blog.

Coming to commenting his forecast array, someone else came in to talk about it, without giving any understanding clue to read it.

His pretended AI system is a complete scam, giving obfuscated informations making it useless.

I did buy some reports too after hundreds of pages of history in the last 3!pages finally some forecast written in a way that whatever append in the future he will be able to proclaim «I did tell you»

Half of the answered questions in his blog are fabricated to make him appearing a true genius.

He is able to twist any fact to make them fitting to his ECM.

He is brilliant to mix lies with accurate economics facts to seems honest.

For more than 5 years now he keeps saying that he will open his AI forecast system to everyone next month. Which has never append yet.

Read at insight about economy but for your own sake stay away of his forcasts.

He is unfortunately bias by anger toward the system and looking for fame.

If you dare question him, he will insult and call you stupid you as an answer.

My experience of MA.

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The whole post above is worth a read. And I boldfaced that part, because Armstrong, like all other scammers, resort to use the "third person trick", to have another person to come in, so that you canNOT directly question him. And of course, Armstrong interpreting Socrates without you being able to confront Socrates is also the "third person trick".

I read an actual Armstrong's report once from my friend. The above comments are totally accurate. 95+% of the report talks about history, which has no trading value, and that you cannot argue with, and the last 5% or like 2 to 3 pages, he/Socrates gave out ambiguous forecasts which you won't be able to say whether he is right or wrong in the future, and also means that those forecasts are NOT tradable because it doesn't tell you in clear words, whether it will be high or low for certain.

So IF you attend his conference, you will NOT learn anything very specific on HOW to use his array, or things to help you understand his models.

The bottom line is ALL of Armstrong's stuffs are NOT made to be clear (like the arrays). Rather, they are made to be confusing, so that the final blame can be laid upon the readers, instead of him.

In the meantime, he can keep collecting all the subscriptions from people who think they can retire with yacht in 10 years, and who keeps to look for the "trade of century", and the sensational slingslot and vertical move, and that the super-AI computer will supposedly never go wrong.

Armstrong used "buy of the century" (the exact words) for gold in 2000. And that's only two decades into this century.

Now, he continues his scheme and use "trade of century" for stocks, for a different crowd obviously. And then he will keep doing this. Pretty soon, his calling on commodity boom in 2024/5, and then he may use "trade of century" for agricultural products.

I'm not saying that Armstrong's calls are all wrong, but his strategy is basically making a call for a turning point in an extended run, hoping to strike a big home run. And if you do that enough times, you will hit a home run for sure, not counting ALL the failed calls which can cause various trading losses. On the average, if you follow him on every call, you probably will not come out ahead. But Armstrong will only highlight the successful call.

(Repeatedly) making a call for a turning point in an extended run, eventually, will be right. So he tried to call February panic, and it didn't happen. And then he called again for May + July. That is similar to his calls for big earthquake in California after big rainfall.

And by the way, he called for a plague raised to the INTERNATIONAL level (the final climax) this year 2019, starting from 2014 (I don't remember whether the starting year is 2014 or 2017). 2019 is almost half-way now. There is NO international plague. And don't worry, if there is one, Armstrong will surely be there, and tell you "I told you so".

But if there is nothing, how many people will remember his failed calls?

And remember his call on bitcoin bearish closing price for 2018 based on the yearly reversal prices? Whoever shorted bitcoin based on Armstrong's advice would be at about negative 100% right now.