Quote from: Gyrsur on June 05, 2019, 07:17:55 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on June 05, 2019, 01:54:24 AM

Quote from: Gyrsur on June 04, 2019, 10:53:55 AM

in the light of what's happening in the mixer scene it seems to me the time of centralized mixer services had come to an end.

In the meantime better ways exists to protect your privacy. Please learn and apply for yourself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51179260#msg51179260

You seem to have missed this.

Quote from: Hueristic on May 22, 2019, 04:28:57 PM

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 22, 2019, 04:19:58 PM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on May 22, 2019, 04:05:44 PM

SHUWasabi

indeed, a very good starting point for Bitcoin privacy is:

https://wasabiwallet.io

Wasabi does not compare.

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Ideal fungibility requires every Bitcoin transaction to be indistinguishable from each other, but it is an unrealistic goal. ZeroLink's objective is to break all links between separate sets of coins. ZeroLink presents a wallet privacy framework coupled with Chaumian CoinJoin, which was first introduced in 2013 by Gregory Maxwell. A mixing round runs within seconds, its anonymity set can go beyond a single CoinJoin transaction's if needed, and its DoS resilience presumes a transaction fee environment above $1 Bitcoin.

boy, it was just a link to start with something to learn and apply for yourself. Roll Eyes

if you're here to learn and not for the entertainment only you will find a lot of usefull discussions to apply better privacy in your (daily) use of Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146241

Sorry, its just a fact that second layer privacy will NEVER EVER compare to first layer and there is too much mis-information about that being spread about.

People put themselves at risk trusting incorrect information, in some parts of the world these can literally be life and death. I would never use Wasabi if I had Monero as a choice the two are not comparable. Wasabi is better than nothing but it will not save you if TPTB (wherever you live) are looking at you. Actually I doubt anything is safe if TPTB are looking at you in the 5 eyes.

Those are good links you just posted BTW.

Quote from: RivAngE on June 06, 2019, 12:40:26 PM

Shouldn't people just start using GRIN instead and be done with the mixing services?
I suppose it's not as helpful as mixing services because there are cases when you just want to send BTC and nothing else, but overall GRIN has many advantages,
A) You don't need to trust a 3rd party (the mixing service) to send anonymously.
B) It's even more anonymous than mixing services since you can transact without even having a public address, but instead by exchanging a transaction file with the other party *.
C) There are no fees to be pay in a 3rd party and even the network fees are very low.

*I don't 100% understand how this works, so I might have said something wrong in point B. If anyone cares, you can try understand it more deeply by reading here: https://medium.com/@brandonarvanaghi/grin-transactions-explained-step-by-step-fdceb905a853

I guess it's still a bit too complicated to use GRIN, but hopefully this will change soon in order to provide people who want anonymity so badly with a great alternative to mixing.

That is a much better Idea but yet again Monero is a better choice than grin.

But as always...DYOR