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Re: Quickseller vs cleaning up the forum
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suchmoon
on 08/06/2019, 21:19:27 UTC
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Edit - moving posts from other threads here.



suchmoon strongly implied she would not report lauda plagiarism if it was found.

Except I didn't but please keep repeating that lie as much as you can, you'll have less time for scamming then.



I am mostly interested in the tool - the bot - used to actually report the plagiarists.

The who is mostly irrelevant, unless the who talks about said tool he/she/it uses.
I'm not sure if my "prime suspect" has been mentioned yet, but feel free to review an older thread on the topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032322
I am not sure who your "prime suspect" is, but I found a "confession" in that thread:
I'm experimenting with some NLP techniques for plagiarism detection and the results are promising although scalability is a bit of an issue. Currently working just on comparing Bitcointalk posts (not to outside sources).


I experimented with n-grams a little bit and couldn't find a good value. Low n yields too many false positives, high n doesn't detect spinners, etc. So I'm using a mixture of algorithms and base the decision on the pattern of the results of those algorithms - e.g. if the similarity of two texts using algorithm A is 70%, then union/intersect/otherwise manipulate the texts, run algorithm B, if it scores 90% then run algorithm C to eliminate false positives - made up numbers but you get the idea. Works ok-ish, but as I mentioned it doesn't scale well and I need to do more testing on larger samples.



Brilliant detective work, Quicksy. May I suggest investigating bears and popes next.

I literally have "snitch" under my avatar, speaking of which - I was wearing Stitch for months. I actually explained to you personally how I look for plagiarism when you decided to lie about it, which happens a lot for some reason. Early onset Alzheimer's or just trying to save your account farm by attacking people who're cleaning up the forum from garbage like you?

The bot is likely a myth though. I doubt there is anyone running an actual bot (autonomous software) to find and report posts. I report a shitload of posts - on a good month probably in double digits as a percentage of all reports - and I still manually review and report every single post. Just using some software tools more tailored to the task than a simple Google search.

But if it makes spammers quake in their boots... yes, there's a bot and it's gonna get you in your sleep.



I found it weird that you were dancing around the subject of you actually running a bot, expect for the sarcastic comment at the end of your post.....until I remembered this:
I'm involved in what could be considered a service to the community and there are some expenses (details available to serious bidders on request). I've been footing those bills on my own for the last ~year but my SO got a hold of the last one... long story short, that's no longer a viable option Wink
Neither of the posts explicitly say if you are presently running a bot, and the post in which you sell your avatar doesn't explicitly say what the money will be used for, leaving open the possibility that either you could be using the money to finance the cost of the bot, and to reimburse your family the previous cost of the bot. No big deal, there isn't any reason to be forced to disclose what money that is legitimately obtained is going to be used for.

No one cares if the person reporting the posts actually looks at the reports before submitting them, the end result is still the same. Frankly, so long as any bot used uses sufficient logic to weed out common phrases that would not be plagiarism, there shouldn't be any concerns with automatically reporting posts. Although based on who I believe is most likely to have created the bot, I have my doubts the person's junk science would allow him to sufficiently weed out these false positives.

Back on track, I think it is pretty clear you are still using the bot, and I think you are expending your own money to pay for these expenses. I also think you are probably not explicitly lying, but are making statements that you believe will lead your SO to believe you are *not* any longer paying these expenses yourself (and that he actually believes this). In some regards, this kind of deception to a SO, or someone you have a close personal relationship with is worse than explicitly lying because it leaves open the possibility to deny being deceptive when caught and confronted (and asked if you were previously lying).

I am not sure if you paid, or are paying, or were but no longer are paying the person who I believe to have created the bot. I believe him to be a scammer, troll, and a spammer, and not one to care about others enough to want to make this kind of tool for free. On the other hand, he has a history of smearing anyone who calls out his shady behavior, and holds a grudge, so I can't rule this person out from being willing to create a tool to use his junk science to further grind on his ax so to speak, that eventually got repurposed and/or modified to catch people plagiarizing.

Knowing my observations of your behavior on the forum, and who I know you align with, I am not surprised to see deception on your part.  
Holy macaroni... so your problem with me is that you think I'm lying to my spouse? Grin

If you weren't such a conniving weasel I'd be happy to provide invoices and source code to you but you'd just come up with a bunch of other lies. Not sure who you're implying to be the "scammer" who wrote the software (I guess tspacepilot would be a candidate as you likely hold a grudge against him). That's simply false. No other person touched the tools I built to report posts. You can keep calling it a bot if you want, I'm not going to try to explain what I'm actually doing, but I will keep calling you a lying asshat as you so thoroughly deserve it.

I have my doubts the person's junk science would allow him to sufficiently weed out these false positives

Feel free to ask theymos what the rate of false positives is in my reports, lying asshat.



You mentioned up thread that you manually review all the reports before submitting them, yet you say to ask theymos as to how many of your reports are inaccurate as evidence of the accuracy of your bot. These two items conflict with each other.

No, it's just you looking for any angle to attack me. Stop derailing every thread with that shit. Create a scam accusation about this "very dishonest person" and add it to your signature, lying asshat.




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Obviously this thread is complete bullshit and is a response to my calling out suchmoon for using a bot to check for plagiarism and use said bot as a weapon to get those who dissent the opinions of her supporters.

There are no facts nor “red flags” presented in this thread and it is explicitly stated that suchmoon doesn’t like my opinions and is doesn’t want others listening to my opinions, likely because she believes I will convince others to oppose her supporters.