Quote from: Crypto-Info on June 09, 2019, 10:44:29 AM

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Just to be clear in regards to the Fake Team:

Dr Kurt Becker - A real person whose identity has been stolen for the use of this scam.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurt-becker-6a60731a/

A very quick visit to the website: https://www.immoraising.de/team&prev=search would reveal the real Dr Kurt Becker's contact details:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.immoraising.de/team&prev=search

Contact:
E-Mail: kb@immoraising.de
Tel .: 02 306/91 04 51 3

Here are all the companies the real Dr Kurt Becker is involved with:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=https://www.northdata.de/German%2BGlobal%2BMining%2BHolding%2BAG,%2BL%25C3%25BCnen/Amtsgericht%2BDortmund%2BHRB%2B29757&xid=25657,15700023,15700186,15700191,15700256,15700259&usg=ALkJrhjQxRa9det9jM9xDt_TAa4dFTPMZw

https://www.northdata.de/Becker,+Kurt,+Lünen/15w5 <------- The real compnies Dr Kurt Becker is involved in.

When you search the real Dr Kurt Becker social profile can you find anything to do with the Blue Hill Mining\Foundation?

When you search the above link that shows all the companies that the real Kurt Becker is involved with can you see Blue Hill Mining\Foundation?

NO

Ok so you accept Dr Kurt Becker is a real person with a history of working for large institutions, but you don't see the connection with BHM/BHF (even though there are videos on the website with him explaining the blue hill project)

Well here is another video with Dr Kurt Becker going into detail about the BHM project. Skip to 30 minutes

https://www.facebook.com/MizeNetworkOfficial/videos/1985092791799076/

Good question.

DeepFake Video.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/05/23/deepfake-ai-can-turn-mona-lisa-convincing-real-person/

or an older article - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLoI9hAX9dw <<<------ Example (2018)

ICOEthics: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110020.msg51402152#msg51402152

For a more in depth study into this DeepFake Video phenomena you could refer to a paper "Few-Shot Adversarial Learning of Realistic Neural Talking Head Models", by Egor Zakharov, Aliaksandra Shysheya, Egor Burkov, Victor Lempitsky, Samsung AI Center, Moscow and Skolkovo Institute of Science and Technology.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.08233v1.pdf

Are you for fricking real???!!!!

You think it's a fake video. That's your evidence??. SMH.

I'm lost for words. If you said he had a gun put to his head that would hold more weight. Just goes to show you can't come back to refute the video so let's try some hocus pocus crap to justify your view

Fact is it's a REAL video with the REAL Kurt Becker. This just refutes ALL your 'arguments' in one.

BTW you ask how a company gives 3000% plus returns on tour investment.

Have you even bothered to read the whitepaper?? The part where RoyalHaskoving DVG independently analysed the mine and according to their calculations based on the minerals found in 10% of the mine, they estimate each token to rise to a value of $30.

I suppose Royal Haskoving are a scam too....

Have you even seen the quality of the video let alone the distance that "speaker" was standing to the camera. Anyways I haven't invested so no loss.

But just to recap you are happy investing in a project that is:

Related to known scam projects. Have no idea what your jurisdiction classifies as a security, otherwise you wouldn't of posted that I don't know what I was talking about. Believes a high profile man as Dr Kurt Becker would waste his time on Bitcointalk to sell his project and top of that have very minimal video views. On that note, there were only a few present, with such a large project and STO one would expect many people in attendance. Also not having financial prospectus that the financial body would accept wouldn't be something you would risk? Oh, and a large STO joining a brand-new network like Mize that is unproven....yes it all sounds very real solid project here, nothing suspicious...pffft.

Don't get me started on who has the license to mine in Mongolia in this area. You realise that it is public. I know you would have look it up before investing, correct? I did. Do you due diligence.

I also provided you the real contact details for Dr Kurt Becker so if you are unsure you could contact him yourself.

Ok. Let's say the video was indeed 'fake', then how do you explain this one

https://youtu.be/9Kl6R78iQw0

Or this one showing the link between GWE/mize and bhm

https://youtu.be/jylBpY_3XaU

The meeting on the video was a private one between mize and bhm to promote the tokens, the reason why there was 'mininal' attendance. Its private so not open to public, only by invitation.

You say why would kurt Becker waste his time on bitcoin talk yet you fail to realise it is all marketing to gain exposure for the company to prospective investors.
It's not just bitcoin talk. Reddit, medium, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, telegram, LinkedIn all used for exposure. Its basic marketing.

Bitcoin talk is used as there are hundreds of thousands of users = potentially hundreds and thousands of investors all without paying a single penny on marketing. No brainer.

Mize is unproven? Established in 2017, still running and still paying to this very day.

You fail to realise GWE is the parent company of Mize. GWE are the blockchain experts who help create security tokens for these big companies, GWE paid for the privilege to have Mize network sell tokens on behalf of BHM.

You cry scam yet nothing shows that mize is a scam. In fact you make a LUDICROUS claim that you need to pay 25000 to join Mize!
PLEASE SUBSTANTIATE THIS CLAIM!!!

Fact is you can join for FREE and purchase whatever paying product you want.

You claim the license numbers for mining companies are public. BHM gives theses numbers for the mine: concession numbers 14307X & 14308X.

Please prove otherwise as you say the license numbers of mines in Mongolia are public. Please provide the list that shows these are not on there.

You claim it is a scam. This means SWISSCOM, RoyalHaskovingDHV, Kurt Becker, Golder are all in on this elaborate scam.

In fact I have contacted SWISSCOM and they confirm that they have worked with BHM on this project.

If you gcryet scam please back it up.