Quote from: mariokart on June 13, 2019, 03:38:16 AM

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because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

You're right i am making assumptions. The video was unreadable even at 1080p "atleast for me" so the only thing both of you have provided that i can go on is you claiming you didn't use the same ip
And if that's true it's a fact, if they where randomly banning to steal funds it wouldn't be just you 2 here
And since you both admit to being "friends" it's not a coincidence. there's only one other way they found 2 people connected and that's by being reported and investigated.
You say that they didn't review your hand history, but the video looked like it was basing everything off of a conversation with support, and ive never seen any support reveal their investigation method only the conclusion which i can only assume is what you got from that conversation "so i don't know how you're claiming your history wasn't reviewed" because i doubt they would tell you if they did or didn't.

Quote from: mariokart on June 13, 2019, 04:44:44 AM

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You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

You post only makes you look more like a casino rep.

Seriously... you can't take someone to court, decide he's guilty, and then when he refutes things you say respond with "that only makes you look more guilty".

What's going on here is very kafkaesque and very disturbing and if you weren't a casino rep I'd be surprised you don't see that.

And it does make you look more guilty because like i said above if you where using the same ip, there would be room for confusion/mistakes
I never decided you where guilty or even said you where, i said you most likely are.

this is a forum not a courtroom, honestly this is worse then your comparison of this site with pokerstars.

i have seen countless post where cheaters got caught and cried because there funds was frozen, i haven't seen any where viable proof was actually provided.

Not me or any other forum user here has the facts to say for certain you where cheating, theres too much missing.

your story relies on alot of coincidences being true and that's why "i may look like a rep" because i'm not going to side with someone whos """likely""" a cheater scamming other players while harming this sites rep.
"btw i haven't even played here before" that's why i was browsing this thread, to decide. My current opinion is unbiased and if you post any viable proof that proves you're innocent then ill be behind you.