Quote from: af_newbie on June 17, 2019, 10:52:57 AM

Quote from: DigitalCyberius on June 17, 2019, 09:24:50 AM

Quote from: natalia stark on February 25, 2019, 07:12:44 AM

Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?

Actually this is not true. I assume you are talking about Evolution vs Creation or Christianity?

Evolution is actually not scientific, nor is Atheism or materialism, in fact, science has cast doubts and falsified the claims of these ideologies, they are in of themselves religious by nature. The only reason you may get the impression that science points in their direction is because those who do not want God have largely taken over the sciences and redefined it to mean basically naturalism, which is not what science is. Evolutionists have a long history of fraudulent claims, ignoring evidence, even fabricating evidence, and being extremely bias and often using bad science. And in fact a deep look at science will point towards the Biblical narrative.

Here's a cool TED Talk video about how scientists have egos and they like to name things, and in doing so, they create far more dinosaurs than there actually were - note, I don't know the guy, and can't vouch for other things he may teach, but this video is good and very revealing and cutting edge (literally, lol, you'll see):
-Jack Horner: Shape-shifting dinosaurs
https://youtu.be/kQa11RMCeSI

Also, in recent years, dinosaur bones have been being found with a number of fragile biological elements still intact! Despite poor attempts to explain this away, all of these elements in multiple dinosaur bones shows most probably that they are not millions of years old, but only thousands. Furthermore, I've heard that a group of Creationists found C14 in dino bones, coal, diamonds, natural gas, oil, etc, and although no form of radiometric dating has proven to be reliable (nor can they be based on the many assumptions involved, some of which are clearly not the case, such as a dependence on a closed system, and the faith that they started out without any daughter elements, etc), C14 is a limiting factor because of it's very short half-life, also proving that these things can't be millions or billions of years old. PS, You'd be surprised how much evidence there is for a global flood by the way, contact me (see at the bottom) and we can talk more about it.

I may also add that human artifacts have been found in coal, which evolutionists say formed before man (when it was actually formed during the flood), and there are a number of OOPARTS (Out Of Place Artifacts) that poke holes up and down the evolutionary theory (aside from the fact that it doesn't work scientifically speaking on multiple parts).

Here's some resources for you to dive into if you enjoy science, and know that God is true:

-Watch the movie: "Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed" to see how professors have lost their positions in universities for coming to the conclusion that there must be an Intelligent Designer.

-Michael Egnor: The Evidence Against Materialism
Neurosurgeon discusses how materialism is not supported by science, but rather hinders science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHrpBPdtSI&feature=youtu.be

-James Tour: The Mystery of the Origin of Life
James Tour is a world renown synthetic organic chemist, and deals with nanotechnology, and a Messianic Jew. Type in James Tour in Youtube, and you'll see a host of videos by him, including a couple directly related to your question. This video is as well, but the title isn't as direct.
https://youtu.be/zU7Lww-sBPg

-The Kent Hovind Creation Seminar (5 of 7): The Dangers of Evolution
See the rest of his presentations as well. And don't listen to the naysayers, he's probably one of the most hated people among Atheists on the internet.
https://youtu.be/WN31FCcUlLk
-Age Of The Earth:
https://youtu.be/shyI-aQaXD0

-Spike Psarris: Science or Storytelling?
Spike Psarris worked on a military space program, entering as an Atheist, become a Creationist based on the evidence, and then later becoming a Christian after that.
https://youtu.be/gufYmnj0Gjw
-Spike Psarris: Dinosaurs and the Age of the Earth
https://youtu.be/REwIALE9P2g
-What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy - Vol. I (Our Created Solar System)
See Volumes II (Our Created Stars and Galaxies) and III (Our Created Universe[?])
https://youtu.be/CzyQbOQ0dv0

-Origins: Our Created Moon
Here's a video about the moon from the show Origins hosted on the Cornerstone Network - watch all of their videos Cheesy

https://youtu.be/Dk50bycmr_w

-Why i believe in a young earth by ex-evolutionist Dr.Grady McMurtry Part 1
Another former Atheist, watch the other parts, I forget how many there are:
https://youtu.be/uJGairhrPGc

-Check out the encyclopedia here and look up any topic you want:
https://evolutionfacts.com/

-Check out their magazines as well.
https://creation.com/articles

-Another great website
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/

-Genesis Apologetics
A number of good videos on science
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIs7q1bNOeAEd6tsPQBc6Cw

Science proves or at least points to the Biblical narrative being true, and not the opposite. Even though, if it appeared to, man is constantly changing his opinions and his interpretations of evidence, and scientific theories are changing all the time... God's word never changes. And the more and deeper we look into science (from the nano to the macro), the more it validates it, but our final authority should always be God and not man. Here are some additional resources on Biblical events that have been uncovered archeologically, and using other scientific methods. This is only a small sample, you can easily look up Biblical archaeology videos and find many names, places, and events that have been discovered, and keep in mind that most of the researchers in archaeology are secular, and many already believe the Bible isn't true, so they aren't looking for evidence for the Bible, and often glance right over it. Also, some of these discoveries were made by Ron Wyatt, who is also a highly hated individual on the web, a lot of jeolous people, but his work speaks for itself, check out his documentaries on Noah's Ark, (the real) Mt. Sinai, Sodom and Gomorah, Joseph in Egypt, the Red Sea Crossing point, etc. Mind you they are old school documentaries, but very thorough.

-The Star of Bethlehem: Documentary (2007)
This man shows you how the Star of Bethlehem was likely a series of astronomical events
https://youtu.be/u7YTE7WFB6Y
-The Star of Bethlehem: Documentary {Bonus Scene} Revealing of the Ram (2007)
https://youtu.be/AuUPBGMONlc

-Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus
This is a newer documentary showing many of the discoveries about the Israelites in Egypt and why secular Egyptologist's timelines need to shift. He also has done another one called: The Moses Controversy, about an ancient language (probably ancient Hebrew) which could have been used to write the Torah.
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/patternsofevidence
I'm assuming this is the right page, my computer was being a bit slow, so it didn't load all the way.

-Sodom and Gomorrah - Part 1 of 2 - by Michael Rood
Here's a video (part 1 of 2) by Michael Rood, doing a sort of intro to Sodom and Gomorrah, but you can look up Ron Wyatt's full documentary on the subject for yourself. Make sure to watch part two, or look up Ron's full-length documentary.
https://youtu.be/0QsgY115EFc

-The Truth of Noah's Ark - Shabbat Night Live - 04/19/19
This is the first of a three part series (see parts 5/3/19 and 5/10/19) on Noah's Ark. Again, if you want more details of previous discoveries and research, try to look up Ron Wyatt's full documentary on Noah's Ark. But these videos have even newer information, as Ron has past away, but the research has continued in the hands of others. You will notice the thumbnail of the videos if you look them up - that's electronic resistance scans showing what's beneath the surface that no one could see up until very recently with these 3D scans! On the surface it's obvious enough, especially after an Earthquake happened and moved the dirt from the structure, but these sub-surface scans have been evidence enough for the government to allow an archeological dig to commence (even though they officially recognized the site years ago based on Ron's research, but a dig has not een granted until now)! And no, it's not up on the ice-covered post-flood volcano that blew up much like Mt. Saint Helens (which showed us that layers can form very rapidly by the way), it's in the mountainS of Ararat.
https://youtu.be/nmK7G1IgkQI

-Forbidden footage of actual location of Red Sea Crossing & Mt. Sinai
Again, if you want more details look up the full-length documentaries or documentary clips from Ron Wyatt's work. The Red Sea Crossing point comes at the end of the exact path the Bible describes. There is fused sand and rock near the beach head crossing point (God appeared as a pillar of fire to protect them), there is an underwater landbridge a few hundred feet deep, but where the depths drop off to over a thousand feet on either side. Along this underwater landbridge is what appears to be strewn wreckage covered in coral, where wheels, axels, etc, can be seen. If I'm not mistaken, they've identified 4, 6, and 8 spoked chariot wheels, which were only all in use at one time - when the Hebrews were in Egypt, and Ron found a gold chariot wheel - like a gold covering (still there today apparently). Either side of the crossing point had pillars erected by king Soloman, commemorating the location, and if you continue the journey, using the Bible as a road map on the Sinai side, you will eventually get to the real Mt. Sinai. This has a huge alter made of bolders with Egyptian hieroglyphics of Egyptian cow and goat gods (remember the Golden calf?), I think it has ancient paleo Hebrew (don't remember exactly though), it has sandal prints chiseled into rocks (wherever the sandals of your feet go, that land shall be yours), it has a cave that's described in the Bible, and the top of the mountain is blackened - it's not a volcano - while the rest of the landscape is tan/red desert color. I also seem to remember hearing that some of those blackened rocks have been glassified, and if you turn them over, they're the same color as the rest of the landscape on the bottom (God came down as a fire). The area has been fenced off by the government.
https://youtu.be/8y-uiccIiSY

-How Did Jericho Fall?
Jericho (among other cities that were taken) has been found, and unlike what you may have heard, it fits exactly with the Biblical description AND the Biblical timeframe. See how one archaeologist messed it up for many others by ignoring evidence and other's work.
https://youtu.be/JdyE7-aiVkY

-Answering Muslims: Authorship and Dating of the Gospels, Intro
See this guy's series on the authorship and dating of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. This is an intro.
https://youtu.be/fq-FIIoXWLc

-And this scholarly article:
http://www.academia.edu/9269890/Early_Church_Fathers_on_the_Authorship_of_the_NT_Gospels

On miracles, here's some scholarly approaches:
-Lee Strobel: The Case for Miracles
Also the man who does "The Case For Christ"
https://youtu.be/y3VSIWHZtOI

-2 Volume scholarly work: "Miracles: The Credibility Of The New Testament Accounts" by Craig Keener.

-Finally, the Shroud of Turin, you'll hear that it's been debunked through carbon dating, that is not true, aside from fundamental flaws in carbon dating, the dating itself was done on a piece of newer patchwork after the Shroud had survived a fire. Here's what the Shroud is: it's a linen cloth with a special weave and the exact dimensions of a 1st Century Jewish burial cloth. It contains the faint image of a scourged and crucified man (with pre and post-mortem blood stains), made up of slightly different shades of color. BUT this image is actually a photo negative. Meaning that when you take a photo negative of the object, you actually get more details, and it you'll get a black background, and a glowing face. Not only so, but they've found that this flat ancient artifact (the most scientifically studied artifact in the world) has 3D information, which can only be read with special equipment (and from it they've been able to make full body 3D model). Many other discoveries have been made, such as that it contains pollen from plants native to Israel, invisible chemical stains showing a death certificate, coins on the eyes and an oval plaque over the throat reading something to the effect of "The Lamb", both of which were not visible without further investigation. The discoloration which causes the image is on the very tips of the fibrils that make up the threads of the fabric, it's very fragile, and not the result of scorching, paint, or dye. It has been said that in order to recreate it exactly, it would take a flash of ultraviolet(?) light, the speed of the flash of which, and the power intensity of which we cannot match with today's laser technology. Another scientist said that in order to get the image that is on the cloth, both sides of it would have needed to have been stretched tight and flat, and the body levitating in between them at the moment the image was made, she called it a singularity event.

I've got some links to this somewhere, as long as many other links and resources for the topics above. Please feel free to contact me at: elijahjsanders@gmail.com and hopefully I'll see your email and get back to you

Go and read 2 Peter 3, and remember that Paul also warned of "science falsely so called". There is nothing new under the sun.

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The Cyberius team.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6omFJhKr6o

A comedy sketch, really? Wow. Didn't watch all of it, but I got the gist, going to make fun of things he doesn't understand, and hasn't looked into very deeply. As stated, Noah's Ark has been found (and it's massive by the way - see Ken Ham's The Ark Encounter for a good representation of the size). Here's a non-comedic presentation on the flood - which is just the tip of the iceberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0imsTv5Ez4