Quote from: Hawker on September 08, 2011, 09:19:39 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on September 08, 2011, 09:16:06 PM

Quote from: Bind on September 08, 2011, 08:42:13 PM

I work hard to earn my way through life. I prepare for my future and the future of my family, to care for my elders, and I teach my children the exact same ethic I was taught regardless of the education and media systems trying to program them otherwise. It's been a tough fight and getting tougher every day.

Personal responsibility. Just like in any species of life, you die if you do not do your required work to survive. You, and no one else, is responsible for your survival.

Socailism is a bunch of people who would steal the product of my hard work through legislative means rather than work for what they need to survive. It also breeds entitlement. Entitlement to my stuff just because their parents screwed and had an accident they could not raise appropriately in my opinion.

You have no right to anything you do not work for.

What you DO have is the possibility of others pity in charitable contributions. I believe in pity to help the truly needy. Those that have absolutely no ability to care for themselves. These cases are extremely rare.

If I held a gun to your head because I want that watch you worked hard for would be illegal.

Just like holding a gun to my head or threatening prison time to me for not giving you my hard earned product (my taxes spent on you socialists with an entitlement disorder- without my consent) should be illegal, but like most things the government and elites advocate is not illegal because they voted to make the illegal- legal.

What happens way in the future when there is absolutely no incentive to work and earn your way through life to survive ?

People stop working and relies on the state. They lose all their wealth and personal property because they can not aford to buy or upkeep it through the high taxes stolen from us.

Totalitarian Police State where everyone is forced into an occupation to work for the state and the greater good of humanity, because everyone is reliant upon the state.

Think about it.

Well put, I agree. Wink

Really by that logic George W Bush was a socialist. I agree 100% with your opposing your money being wasted on layabouts but Stalin used to shoot them for parasitism. What you are opposed to is injustice, not any known version of socialism.

I am opposed to anyone forcing me to give money towards anything. Let me choose how to spend my money, what charitable donations to give, what public projects to fund, etc. I wouldn't even mind a forced tax if I got to choose what public projects it was spent on.

And what do you mean by "any known version of socialism"? What does a known version of socialism look like, in your opinion? Because to me, it looks like programs to give people money who don't work hard enough to provide for themselves.