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You seem to be very confused about what an answer is.
An easy example you might understand: (probably not)

I ask, why do things fall down? An answer could be: they fall down because the earth is flat and accelerating upwards, is that a true answer though? No, just like the answers in the bible, its a statement with no evidence.

Science answers with gravity which can be measured and tested and you yourself admit its real, you admit science works better than religion.

Religion takes an overview of life.

Science focuses on little pieces of stuff, and often comes up with stupidity regarding that stuff.

If we had only science, we would stumble and die for lack of a big enough understanding of how to live.

If we had only religion, we would simply go on with life as we have for thousands of years.

You seem very confused about what the topic is.

Cool

Did religion help edison, einstein, newton and every other genius/creator/inventor ?? Did it at all??? Did they need to know about god to invent or discover things? Of course not. We are here because of them, you can type stupid shit because of them not religion, religion didnt invent computers or the internet.

Lol, actually modern science was headed by many men of faith, including some of the ones you mentioned, and it was important to them how they viewed the world and did their work. Many inventions have come about by people of faith, and even some from Divine revelation. But I ask you: did evolution create computers or the internet? No. The only way the questioner's question makes sense is with the assumption that "science" proves evolution, and disproves the Bible, which it does not. In fact, science keeps proving many of the things the Bible says (in addition to archeological evidence that it is true, along with other signs such as precisely fulfilled prophecy, etc).

Age of the earth, age of the universe proves the bible to be a hoax. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors
There are a ton of scientific mistakes in the bible, again proving the bible to be science fiction.

If another religion has more fulfilled prophecies would you change your religion to that one?

A. There's much evidence that the Earth and Universe are young, if you looked at my original reply to this thread, there are at least two former Atheists who switched to being young-earth Creationists based on the evidence. Saying it is old is based on many assumptions, including the assumption that God does not exist and did not create anything (which is a BIG assumption), and their models are full of inconsistencies that constantly run into problems in nature, they cannot fully explain how the Universe formed with their models, therefore why would you trust them to know the age?

There's a lot more evidence for a young Earth & Universe by the way than what they present in their presentations. Here's some from the original reply.

-Spike Psarris: Science or Storytelling?
Spike Psarris worked on a military space program, entering as an Atheist, become a Creationist based on the evidence, and then later becoming a Christian after that.
https://youtu.be/gufYmnj0Gjw
-Spike Psarris: Dinosaurs and the Age of the Earth
https://youtu.be/REwIALE9P2g
-What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy - Vol. I (Our Created Solar System)
See Volumes II (Our Created Stars and Galaxies) and III (Our Created Universe[?])
https://youtu.be/CzyQbOQ0dv0

-Why i believe in a young earth by ex-evolutionist Dr.Grady McMurtry Part 1
Another former Atheist, watch the other parts, I forget how many there are:
https://youtu.be/uJGairhrPGc

Also see:
-Origins: Our Created Moon
Here's a video about the moon from the show Origins hosted on the Cornerstone Network - watch all of their videos Cheesy
https://youtu.be/Dk50bycmr_w

-Check out SECTION 2
https://evolutionfacts.com/EncyclopediaTOC.htm

And also:
-Michael Egnor: The Evidence Against Materialism
Neurosurgeon discusses how materialism is not supported by science, but rather hinders science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHrpBPdtSI&feature=youtu.be

-James Tour: The Mystery of the Origin of Life
James Tour is a world renown synthetic organic chemist, and deals with nanotechnology, and a Messianic Jew. Type in James Tour in Youtube, and you'll see a host of videos by him, including a couple directly related to your question. This video is as well, but the title isn't as direct.
https://youtu.be/zU7Lww-sBPg

B1. There is none. B2. There are many other evidences that the Bible is true, so no. B3. The fulfilled prophesies have impossible probabilities of being fulfilled, but they were, even in recent times, and more to come (ps, have you ever looked into the odds/probabilities of things happening by chance, such as the formation of a single protein? Beyond impossible odds... over, and over, and over again. Or that it's more probable [mathematically speaking] that you're a Boltzmann brain than that the Big Bang happened? That's essentially a fully formed floating brain in space that randomly popped into existence a short moment ago and will disappear in a few short moments, lol). God was there, and He gives us the historical record, which matches scientific evidence: young earth/universe, global flood, genetic Adam & Eve, genetic population bottleneck, diaspora of languages from a single point (also seen in genetics I believe), uniqueness of creatures in their DNA and reproducing after their kinds, geological evidence of people, places, and events throughout history, etc.

Why do I care that a few idiots changed their mind and started believing in creationism? The evidence against a young earth is INSANELY HUGE. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation There are literally dozens of different methods that all point to an earth far older than 10000 years old, it's not even close lol.