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^^^ The location in space of planet Earth doesn't have anything to do with people. It has to do with the way God set up cause and effect, and the way He maintains the physics of it all.

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What does that have to do with bill gates inveting an operating system? Or einstein? Again, even the religious inventors and geniuses didnt need the bible to do what they did. Does the bible teach the scientific method? Does it teach a better method? Does it teach anything related to engineering, physics, math?

Cause and effect in everything!

This universe is on the way to being destroyed. Each person gets his proof of it when he dies. The purpose of the Bible is to save souls for the new universe... rather than leave them with this universe and its destruction.

Why would anybody need the Bible for scientific stuff? That's not its purpose?

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The Bible is nothing more than a brainwashing fairy tale that had more power in earlier times when life was much more simple and mysteries remained.

If it in inspires and guides you through life, more power to you.

What proof do you have that it is a fairy tale? None. On the other hand, I can provide you with lots of evidence that it is not. See my original reply.

Plenty, from the incoherent stories to the many scientific errors in it. Or simple logic, is god all powerful and knows everything? Then why would he need 7 days to create anything? Why would he need to rest? Why are we here if he already knows who will go to heaven? How will heaven prevent humans from doing bad things? Etc. You only need an IQ above 50 to understand the flawed logic.

Sorry, there is no incoherent stories or scientific errors in it, unless you simply want to look at another Atheist's surface level explanation of things, instead of digging deeply into the matter and see what's really going on. And you wouldn't have logic unless a God of logic gave you the ability to reason, it would not have happened by chance. Because He chose to do it that way. To rest in that sense simply means He stopped creating, which is fairly obvious in the context. There's nothing flawed about God choosing to do things certain ways, and us not understanding it, that's our lack of understanding, it is flawed to believe that the complexity and design and immensity of life and the Universe came from nothing, and that we are descendants of rocks, or that things don't produce after their kinds as we have always observed. The Bible does say that the prolonging of Christ's return is for your chance to repent and turn to Him so you can be saved. As to what will prevent humans from doing bad in Heaven, the Bible is very cleary: A. when Jesus comes back He will do away with everything evil. B. We will be changed to be like Him (the process of which begins when you get filled with the Holy Spirit now). In essence, we will no longer have a sin nature, nor anything evil wondering around in Heaven / the New Earth.
The Bible describes this type of attitude in 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." The crucifixion and the resurrection are facts of history, so regardless of what we don't understand, we have to deal with that fact. See near the bottom of my original reply to this thread for more.

''And you wouldn't have logic unless a God of logic gave you the ability to reason, it would not have happened by chance.'' Logical Fallacy, False Dilemma: A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

It is not flawed to believe that god made mistakes, otherwise why did he need to kill everyone and start again?