Quote from: BADecker on June 24, 2019, 01:38:00 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on June 24, 2019, 01:31:26 PM

Quote from: BADecker on June 24, 2019, 12:51:17 PM

Quote from: Astargath on June 24, 2019, 08:05:56 AM

And what do we know for sure? You keep talking about knowing for sure and facts but you still dont understand that there is no such thing. Science does not operate that way. There are no 100% facts in anything. Science theory is the closest we can get to facts

So, this is why science thinks the universe is 13 billion years old? Because they don't know it? Because they know there are as many ideas that suggest the universe - at least the earth - is young, like 10,000 years old?

I'm soooo happy that scientists can get excited about the things that they don't know, and especially that they know that they don't know... even while they advertise that they are fact... like evolution, for example.

All you are suggesting is that science is a big conglomeration of science fiction.

Much of religion, on the other hand, is recorded, eye witness accounts. Some of it sci-fi science doesn't have a clue about. So science sci-fi tries to dismiss it as fantasy or fiction. But as you said, it is science that is the fiction. So their dismissals are fictitious. Religion, being eye witness accounts, is factual, even though some of it might be interpretations of what was seen, because - as we have so often heard - truth is stranger than fiction.

Cool

Show me one contemporary historical figure who actually saw Moses or Jesus for that matter.

Contemporary to what? Our time or theirs? Did Plato or Archimedes or Euclid really exist?

Cool

EDIT: Miriam and Aaron saw Moses. Peter, James and John saw Jesus. (Sorry, I got carried away. You asked for only one.)

Show me one historical evidence (outside of religious texts) that Moses or Jesus existed.