Quote from: Cnut237 on June 27, 2019, 07:33:15 AM

My position is generally very left-wing, I am strongly in favour of equality of opportunity and a much lower level of inequality both within societies and across the world. Equally I find the excesses of capitalism abhorrent, the multi-billionaires who don't pay any tax whilst the poorest often have to work several jobs just to stay alive.

But... I think that Socialism is becoming irrelevant as a concept. The whole thing is based upon the power of the workers. Unionise, strike for better conditions etc. Technology is rapidly superseding that. We hear a lot about automation. The tech revolutions we've had already have meant huge job losses in one sector, but new opportunities somewhere else. Industrialisation meant we needed far fewer farm workers - but more factory workers. The computer revolution meant we need fewer factory workers but more jobs appeared in the service sector. The thing with the current wave of automation (with AI playing an increasing role as well) is that there is nowhere left to go, no new sectors will arise where humans can perform the work better than machines can. This will lead to the complete disempowerment of the working class, and the loss of the big bargaining chip of Socialism.

Not sure what the outcome will be, probably some form of UBI, but the fact is that whether we like it or not, Socialism as a concept is becoming rapidly outdated.

yeah, ~~leftism is irrelevant~~ classical leftism is dead, if you are the leftist, who is not gonna get all to the gulags, and give as many taxes as fuck, you should require panarchy for ppl who dont want to live under ~~socialist hell~~ your government would be able to exit your ~~tyrany~~ leadership
note: i mean panarchy(focj, polystate), not anarchy