Quote from: MrChicken1987 on June 29, 2019, 05:18:17 PM

Quote from: fuk on June 29, 2019, 08:11:12 AM

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I don't understand why you think this coin is a scam. Because it didn't fulfill its goals within the first two years? Maybe you can point that out. I really want to know why you think that.

yeah it is centralized database with zero use cases, luck of community and coin lost 99.2% of value. We must not allow new people to fall into this trap.

Okay, but that does not make this coin a scam. A scam would be something completely different in my eyes.
The problem is that decentralization alone does not change the world. Not every Bitcoin user has a copy of the blockchain. Heck, not even everyone has their coins in their own wallet and are in charge of the private keys.

But you could load a copy of the Blockchain or in this case a copy of the Obyte DAG. You are responsible for the decentralization.
And supposing you are talking about the 12 witnesses, they do not mean centralization as far as i have understood the function of the witnesses.
Also, it is possible for you to convince users to use your node as witness. But you have to raise your stakes for that (give in your anonymity) as well as in Bitcoin (invest in hardware).

It's good to see that some users understand what "fuk" has failed to understand, he just likes to FUD without actually learning anything new.

Somebody would say something like "centralized database" only if they don't understand how Obyte tech works.
Obyte doesn't have block producers like Bitcoin, Ethereum or EOS has. Anybody with full node can post a transaction straight to Obyte DAG, which is not the case for many mineable coins.
Witnesses are just like other full nodes, which follow the protocol rules, so none of the witnesses have a power to censor you. So how is that centralized?

Only part of the centralization is that not all witnesses have yet been given to independent reputable people/companies, so there is a possibility for the founder to collude at the moment, but that doesn't make any sense because all the full nodes would instantly know about it and it would kill the project, which again would make any sense for the founder to do.
But that doesn't mean that all the witness nodes are currently located in same machine and you can't verify that either because witnesses are hidden behind the TOR.

Obyte is even more decentralized full nodes than EOS, because each of the Obyte full nodes has full history of the DAG, while EOS has grown into terabytes with just one year, so few actually run the node with full history.

Here some more stats:
Over 100 full nodes around the world have connected to main hub. There are constantly around 200 wallets connect to that hub alone.
There are actually (stats page doesn't show all) around 7 hubs/relays (full nodes that accept incoming transactions), but each full node can communicate without accepting incoming connections too. This is the stats page for main hub and full nodes (some stats are hub specific and doesn't reflect stats about other hubs).
https://stats.obyte.org/worldmap.php

There is no single person who develops the platform and there are more than just one wallet (besides official wallet, there are also unofficial web wallet and BIoT testnet wallet for IoT devices).
There is not even just one explorer, there is explorer for just data too https://obyte.io/
Node.js is not even only environment you can write apps that use Obyte network, there is even JS library, which lets you connect to Obyte network from website front-end.