Quote from: EduardoDeCastro on February 15, 2014, 07:46:16 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on February 15, 2014, 07:22:50 PM

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Right. And how smart is it to inform the authorities now? You wrote to demand back all the invested money. That wont happen like you wrote already now. So whats the best move?

Again... it isnt to kill VMC now because most of the money is gone and invested already. It is not selling all shares becaus there arent enough buyers. So the only sane solution would be to hope that Ken will at least earn back most of the coins.
So all your suggested legal attack at this point is not the best solution from an investors view. Might be it will solve your revenge wishes but your wallet wont be happy... if youre an investor at all.

Though i think i wrote that often enough already...

Sebastian, the problem with your logic is it breeds thieves and scammers.
If your reasoning is sound, the only thing I'd have to do after stealing money from you is give you a hope of seeing some of it back.

People do not report murderers in hopes of raising the dead. They do it to see murderers hang, to reminding budding murderers that crimes have unpleasant consequences.

Right... you only want revenge. You gave up hope already and youre convinced its a scam. Fine then sue. But most of the shareholders i know think this isnt a scam since eAsic is involved for sure. Only Ken screwed things a lot. That means we wont make riches anymore.

If this would be a scam you think it would matter if you sue him now or in 3 months? Explain why that would be. If i would be a scammer i would be gone with the bitcoins shortly after collecting them. I would have waited until i washed them and i would have made sure you cant catch me. So your sueing would be pointless. So when you sue him now you take advantage of the point that Ken is a real person and he most probably tried a real thing. Sorry... your behaviour doesnt make sense. I think youre so furious that you cant think calmly and beat around you in the hope things get better. Though that never helps.
I really would appreciate if people would be a little bit more levelheaded. You cant sue in months the same way like now. Ken wont run away... and when he really wanted to scam you can be sure that he already would be gone when you check this and try to sue him. Sorry... your argument makes no sense.

Quote from: RickJamesBTC on February 15, 2014, 08:24:54 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on February 15, 2014, 07:22:50 PM

Again... it isnt to kill VMC now because most of the money is gone and invested already. It is not selling all shares becaus there arent enough buyers. So the only sane solution would be to hope that Ken will at least earn back most of the coins.
So all your suggested legal attack at this point is not the best solution from an investors view. Might be it will solve your revenge wishes but your wallet wont be happy... if youre an investor at all.

Though i think i wrote that often enough already...

Hope? Hope is your plan?

Good luck with that.

Like eduardo said, letting them get away with it because you hope they might find a way to get you back pennies on your dollar lets the next batch of scammers and thieves come along and try it, because they know already how it will work out if they run away with the money.

The answer i gave above accounts for you too. Please be a little bit more levelheaded. Your fear of losing your bitcoins shouldnt lead to exactly that result. Crashing VMC with sueing VMC exactly would have this result. And THEN you would get pennies on your dollars. Or do you think Ken will somehow, after VMC is liquidated, be able to create back your bitcoins?

I really dont know what you guys think where youre bitcoins should come from. But i guess you dont even think about that. You are so furious that you want to do something and dont realize that this is the worse option.

Sueing ken doesnt run away. If he cant deliver in some months youre still able to sue him.