Quote from: nattybear on July 03, 2019, 05:02:06 PM

Quote from: over45 on July 02, 2019, 11:30:42 PM

I don't have to do anything to satisfy you. I'm happy with what Socrates provides and have had no problems. Like a previous poster said - I won't take anyone's word for anything and suspect their data selection is incorrect leading to a flawed analysis.

Slow clap for your attempt. Learn to read the fine print.

Correct - and I'm not asking you to satisfy any of my questions...

Here's the catch though - if you want to demonstrate your credibility then you only need to step up and provide evidence (i.e. live trades using Socrates data) which demonstrate the effectiveness of the platform. Without that everything which you comment on - is baseless.

Like others here I've done my research. I've used the system for an extended period and found, in the best case scenario it doesn't provide much value above basic technical analysis, and in the worse case it is flat out incorrect leading to trading losses. You only need to look at the large movements across the Dow in the last 8mths to see how Socrates/MA failed categorically.

Not going to happen because if you read my posts you'd know that I don't have access to the reversal system and am not an active trader. I am commenting on the Anonymous poster who is calling Armstrong a fraud. They are asked to supply data to someone who wants to verify their findings -- yet they refuse to supply it -- which to me means they either don't have it or haven't learned to use the information supplied properly. Some are successful using Socrates - why?

You'd have to go back through the history of posted gold charts - both public and private posts - to find the previous bullish reversals as they relate to certain "time" sequences (which Armstrong keeps stating is the most important element - not price) to see where they are at vs. this move and to understand why his computer isn't electing bullish reversals. I suspect this recent move up in gold is a reaction move and not the final bullish reversal up in this time sequence.

As for my successes with Socrates - I'll list two that saved me over 50k. First is his call on silver going down when it was around $31 oz. (dropped in half) - and the other was a pharmaceutical stock that I have traded for 40 years which goes up and down consistently - and when it was near the standard buy level I always use - Socrates flashed "caution - potential waterfall event" so I backed off and it read some data-point that I didn't see (probably off-market institutional selling), and the thing dropped $14 a share (nearly 22%) the next week and stayed down for quite a while. Hasn't really recovered since.

And I know by reading the terms of use of Socrates that it is not supposed to be the holy grail of investment research - but something that gives an additional perspective. That's why I originally asked about interpreting the arrays because I don't understand them but some do. Guess maybe only one person here does. If you want a service that for $200 month gives you solid trading ideas daily - there are dozens of them out there. That is not what Socrates is.