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Re: Supporting of shitposting by merit source is it trustworthy?
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KTChampions
on 04/07/2019, 18:42:20 UTC
Handing out merits is sometimes hard. I know when my merits build up and I haven’t handed out source merits in a while I get a lot more generous and know that if I don’t hand out all my source it gets burned, much better to be in circulation than have them vanish.
I agree with you. But it seems to me better to spend time and give away 50 merit for a good post than to encourage poor quality / junk posts.

I checked and you're full of shit.
Maybe OP should check how many merits user Goran has shared in one of threads before and after post number #90753.

I don't think he is full of shit but with lack of proofs we can assume he is full of shit. This thread reveals nothing Wink
Russian is my native language, so it is very easy for me to check the information under discussion.
I checked MoxnatyShmel posts that was merited by chimk. My personal opinion: only two (1,2) of them (28 total) have at least some quality or utility. The rest of the posts are either friendly chatter, or outright trash.

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Top senders to permabanned users, last 180 days
239: chimk (2.87%)
115: dbshck (0.94%)
82: suchmoon (0.46%)
50: djnocide (35.71%)
chimk =~ top2+top3+top4

That's not really a useful stat by itself. Someone who sends more merits generally will send more merits to permabanned users, and you might have sent a lot of merits to a person who deserved it (markiz73 might be an example), and they end up getting permabanned for something they plagiarized a year ago. The merit source did nothing wrong in this case and you shouldn't expect sources to check an individual's entire post history for plagiarism before sending merits. If you look at the percentages, chimk is about triple the percent of total merits sent compared to dbshck, but it's still pretty low and nowhere near the levels of djnocide (35.71%) where it is almost certainly an issue.
I agree with you. This indicator in itself does not mean anything. But if you take it in conjunction with others, then you can see some patterns. I see that chimk destroys Ru local with his distribution of merit. Many users (especially those who are trying to make content and write high-quality posts) seeing such plentiful encouragement of shit posts turn into trolls and oppositionists.
Nobody likes criticism (so chimk ceases to give merit to critics), and chimk's favorites defend their privileged position ... as a result, the local turns into a garbage dump where various factions swear.

QFT. tvplus006 is another one. This was already pointed out to the OP in another thread but he continues to push this conspiracy theory. Very misleading and dishonest.
My theory (although this is only a set of facts but not theory) made it possible to reveal more than 20 malicious fraudsters and to make the forum a little cleaner. If some DT members (from Ru local) were engaged in identifying fraudsters, and not protecting them, the figure would have been more than 100.

If I'm a merit source I wouldn't mind giving away 1 to 4 merits to the post that I at least agree with. Even if the post you have given example have some bad words in it I still think it's worth 1 to 4 merits for the merit source, it's really nothing unusual. Also that's really nothing compared to one-liners receiving 20-50 merits for each worthless post they have, the amount of merits sent to these kinds of post simply doesn't justify it.
You're right. But I'm not talking about individual cases, but about the system. MoxnatyShmel received 79 merit from chimk. As I wrote above, I consider 2 of his posts to be not junk and not an ordinary friendly conversation. These are 5 merits from 79. Is he a shit poster? (total number of posts ~5000 in less than 2 years and only one created topic) most likely not. But he is definitely not a user who should be generously gifted for low-quality posts.