Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 05, 2019, 03:37:59 AM

None of the speculation matters if the company does not open a scam accusation.

The owners of the company are almost certainly hiding from the government and/or are in jail (the former is more likely). The amount involved is smaller than what they are likely to want to care about. This does not change the fact that the theft of the money, as I strongly believe occurred, is any less wrong.

Further, there is blockchain evidence in the OP documenting that Hhampuz moved money from the Bestmixer signature campaign address and eventually moved it into a ChipMixer deposit address.

There is also blockchain evidence that Hhampuz took out a loan in an amount similar to the money missing from the BestMixer signature campaign shortly before the BestMixer campaign closed and the money went missing.

Not counting the loan, there is evidence that money was stolen from BestMixer the probability of which is more likely than not that money was stolen. The loan documents motive to steal the money.

Even further, you have left many ratings (the majority of your ratings) of which the person/entity who is purported to have lost money has not opened a scam accusation, nor otherwise complained. As such, I would refer you to these ratings to determine the legitimacy of this thread.

Quote from: actmyname on July 04, 2019, 11:24:13 PM

[No more regurgitated discussion because that's all we'll have without Hhampuz's reply... which I don't expect to come any time soon.

You can start the precedence of assuming guilt based on unanswered accusations now if you'd like.

You should not assume guilt based on the lack of a response, however you should also not assume innocence based on the lack of a response -- you should weigh the available evidence and consider if there is sufficient evidence of guilt. Please note that in court, witnesses are presumed to be telling the trust, provided that testimony is not contradicted, and when someone says they know something, they can explain how they know said fact to possibly strengthen their credibility. If a defendant does not testify, and someone testifies that the defendant "could" have done "xx" this testimony should be disregarded as speculation.

As it stands now, there is evidence Hhampuz moved money belonging to BestMixer to a competing mixer after they closed down and were very unlikely to ever contact Hhampuz again looking for the money. There is also evidence that Hhampuz had an outstanding loan at the time.

Hhampuz's silence is not evidence of innocence, nor is it reason to believe speculation proposed by third parties who have made no claim to know the underlying facts.

After some consideration, I have decided that I am willing to lock this thread if Hhampuz is able to do the following:
*deny stealing money from BestMixer, or from any other client of his
*explain that he moved the bitcoin belonging to BestMixer for xx reason -- he does not need to stipulate the address the bitcoin was moved to via ChipMixer
*confirm if the bitcoin has been returned to BestMixer, and if not, confirm that he is able and willing to return their money upon their public request

If 2 or 3 contradict with publicly available information, this thread will remain unlocked, and if additional information or complaints become public (that contradict with his answers to 2 or 3), the thread will become unlocked.

The above offer will remain in effect until 23:59 UTC Sunday July 7.

You can note that the question as to what happened to BestMixer's money was poised to Hhampuz over 24 hours prior to this thread being opened.