Quote from: BADecker on July 06, 2019, 09:08:03 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 06, 2019, 02:26:29 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 06, 2019, 01:10:10 PM

Quote from: Astargath on July 06, 2019, 12:57:32 PM

You have shown something you believe is proof. You specifically said that Cause and effect is a fact because you can find it in so many things that statistically it becomes a fact, this was refuted using the fact that you actually don't know the cause of most things.

This might be a hint of lack of proof IF there had been something that was found that was truly spontaneous. However, science doesn't really know how to understand real spontaneity, to say nothing about having found it. So far, real spontaneity is quite the philosophical question.

Cool

Being or not a philosophical question has nothing to do with the fact that you are claiming to know for sure that everything has a cause and YOU said, you knew because statistically most things seem to have a cause but statistically we only know a super small amount of causes, statistically you have not proven that everything has a cause.

I'm simply repeating standard science, which you seem to set aside for your religion... and for the part of science that is religion-like if someone believes it.

Cool

There is no standard or not standard science that says everything has a cause, that's just something you made up and have no evidence to back it up. Even if you could prove everything has a cause, the problem of multiple creators is still there.