Quote from: nguoinhaque on September 06, 2011, 05:54:03 PM

Wow, sounds great!!!!!! Don't sell machines at $5000. Sell the license to GE at $1 billion please!!!!!!!!!!! Write a paper about your invention and you will get a nobel prize!!!!!!!!You will be named as a hero of mankind!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm about to burst the bubble of both the original poster and of those who are trolling the original poster due to the abject impossibility of conservation of energy. If this is what I think that it is, 1) it's not a 'free energy' or over parity device and 2) it's already patented, but the details of how to do it is considered so dangerous that it's been redacted long ago. Hardcore government types, who wouldn't give a moments thought to the risks involved with global warming, will be more than happy to burn you at the stake should they discover you know how this device works. This is because, once I explain the device, the risks to life on Earth should be obvious to any rational person.

As the scientificly educated here have already pointed out, a closed system cannot produce more energy than it requires to operate. These are the two laws of thermodynamics that prohibit 'free energy' devices from working, as there must be a higher energy state to lower energy state even occuring in order for (useful) energy to be harnessed. Said another way, there must be an energy flow from a condition of high energy into a lower energy state sink. Once the two states are of equal potential, the ability to harness useful energy is lost.

So, in general, let me explain how this device "works". (Full disclaimer, I've never seen this device actually produce over parity, only the credible theory on how it could, and why it would be bad even if it never achieves over parity) The device is basicly a magneticly levitated flywheel, of mostly non-ferrous construction, with an array of magnets embedded into it's outer ring. The array of magnets are aligned in all three axis. Some of these magnets are used to keep the device leviated and centered, while others are used as an inverted brushless motor armature. The entire device needs to be in a near total vacuum to reduce friction, for it needs to spin very fast. Now, I've just described a magneticly levitated energy storage device, and one that has been invented and reinvented by multiple people, but has not and will not ever reach mass production. Not because it doesn't work well for that use, but because of the (largely unintentional, and theoretical) side effects of large number of these fast spinning magnetic disks on the surface of the Earth.

Here's the problem in a nutshell, the only way to build such a maglev flywheel is to have it spinning parrallel with the surface of the Earth, as there are many reason why any other oriantation is difficult to build. The disk, being basicly a flat, spinning magnet can and does, however small the effect might be, interact with the magnesphere of the Earth itself. This fact, taken alone, means that the magnetic field of the Earth is a drag on the motion of the spinning disk, as the disk is a moving magnet inside another stationary magnetic field. Relative motion is what creates electomagnetic current. This is how most people would look at this.

However, the magnesphere isn't the only magnetic field of concern. The Sun also produces a magnesphere, which interacts with the Earth's. It is thus theoreticly possible for such a disk, of the perfect set of size and rpm's, at an unknown resonate frequency, to draw an incrediblely small amount of momentum from the relative motion of the Earth's field spinning inside of the Sun's, even while itself sitting on the face of the Earth and not in any real motion relative to that field from a macro viewpoint. This would be akin to those quantum level 'eddys' that plague researchers trying to develop room temp superconductors. This would be a rare and unlikely event if the device was not tuned specifily to do so, but if tens of thousands were built for electic vehicles, or any other reason, the odds that someone will, by accident or intent, stumble across the perfect resonate frequency required to draw off large amounts of 'free energy' from unkonw sources increases. That source would then be the spinning of the Earth itself. Obviously, this occurs naturally, and the spinning of the Earth does gradually slow down on it's own. Ever wonder how the Earth's spin could slow, even though it's an object spinning in open vacuum? This is how. The observation is known as the Corrillus (sp?) effect. Taken to it's logical conclusion, such magnetic objects spinning in open space eventually 'lock' their spin to their orbit, thus presenting only one face to their host object. We have a number of celestial examples of 'locked' moons in our solar system, not limited to out own.

Now, obviously, drawing momentum off of the rotation of the Earth itself would be a very bad thing, if it were to ever to occur as a matter of course. A collection of tens of thousands of such devices, used over generations, and the slowing of the Earth could become considerable. Granted, the momentum of the Earth is astronomical compared to the energy needs of humankind, but once this kind of tech were loose, there is no way to know for certain if it can be used to spin up the Earth later on. The long term effects on terrestial life would be unpredictable at best.

Then again, an extra hour each day might help me to get things done.