Quote from: Geenstijl on February 17, 2014, 01:45:50 PM

Yeah i know, you dont want to be in it for short-term gains. But more people that didnt notice the launch would like to be shareholders... If the initial shareholders would cash out some of their coins, making like 5x profit or so, that would actually be a good thing. They can still remain to be a shareholder, just not with a bit smaller shares compared to what they have now. I think it would make the community grow largers which is better for realizing longer term goals and succes.

You know you can buy 'shares' from 'shareholders' right? But just with any investment vehicle original shareholders need to have an incentive to sell. Buyers need an incentive to buy and you meet in the middle somewhere.. The ones selling ~1 month after investment are short-term speculators. as well as traders capitalising on cycles to increase their holdings, which in crypto world generally begins with a premature boost.

Of course there will be some who are not so savvy and never installed counterparty till now, who will likely sell some of their XCP on release of a noob friendly web-wallet, satisfied with the gains already. At the same time release of such wallets would drive up interest considerably. we are in the infancy of this project, and there's a hell of a lot more to come.

Quote from: heskey on February 17, 2014, 02:18:18 PM

Is this a fair calculation?

(1000+1500)/2 = 1250
0.0008 * 1250 = 1
0.0008 * 2648756 ~ 2119
2119 * 650 = 1377350

Initial marketcap: $1,377,350

I wish I would have burned a bitcoin or two...

About the shareholders, If you were to compare proportionate distribution to NXT for example. XCP had a much broader range of initial stakeholders.
( NXT raised just 23btc between ~70 unique addresses, yet has grown to a current market cap of 94,554 BTC.!. whilst XCP raised around 100x the amount. 2,000+btc from ~2,539 unique addresses. Yet less than 1/3 market cap currently and a lot of room for growth.

Even with, for example Ultracoin, a relatively lacklustre qt copy paste, few tweaked paramaters, premine. you know the drill.. you could of made such gains. I'm hesistant to talk about gains because I really think it distracts from the point of this and not fair to compare exciting protocol layer which fill a real gap and provide real utility with dogcoin or frogcoin or squirrelcoin latest meme to earn free gpu after 2 months. these decentralized solution to centralised problem are not just a quick chance to flip & make some cash. The distribution was fair, open and transparent and anybody who beleived in potential. understood fundamentals, saw the code could of invested, just as they could in bitcoin in 2009,2010,2011,etc and accordingly kick themself retrospectively, well there is always equivalent risk.

This protocol has real merit, real innovation, real community behind it. so I wouldn't be surprised to see many who is not planning to sell any part of there stake any time soon. I Personally haven't got a desire to sell anything until 12 months or so as a minimum, regardless of the price fluctuation's that'll occur during the period, but could be open to offering up some portion as independent bounties and would prefer to use it directly into the xcp ecosystem