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Crap video. if god can prevent evil in heaven then why hasn't he done it already? Please, a 10 year old would understand how illogical it is.

It works like this:

At the time God made everything, there was no evil. There was only good and better.

God works in everything, because none of it would work at all if God did not work it. Since there wasn't any evil originally, there was no reason for God to NOT move in full force with the thing He was doing... bringing to birth children.

Then evil entered through the children and the devil selecting evil rather than good. But God was already moving in the direction of maintaining all things. You don't simply tell God to put on the brakes when He does something with His strength. The thing He did with His strength was to maintain everything... some of it with free choice, some of it evil, and some good.

The thing that God is doing to get rid of evil is, God is making a new universe where evil will not be allowed to enter. This present universe will crash, and once it does, there will be no remembrance of either the good or evil here. So, God is destroying the evil in His own way, even though a few people must live in pain for a hundred years here. When it is done, there will be no remembrance that it even happened.

God will take the people who are on His side - in favor of Him - to the new universe. The others will be destroyed in Hell, because they are the evil that God is getting rid of. Of course, because of the kind of beings people are, it will take all eternity for them to be destroyed. But they asked for it.

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''God is making a new universe where evil will not be allowed to enter.'' Then why didn't he make this one like that to begin with LOL, how illogical can you guys be??

How in the world dumb are you? God made it this way so that people could prove to themselves what their free will would do. How did they prove it to themselves? By the way they used it.

Oh sure. God could have just let them be what they wanted to be. And then they would wake up in H or H and wonder why they were there. But this way they don't have any excuse for the place they go. They can see how they chose it. But once there, there won't be any looking back, because of the pain, or because of the joy.

I mean, if you want freedom to choose the good or the bad, make your choice. And if you don't want the bad, turn the other way and choose the good.

The new universe, or the decaying old (Hell)... is simply the reward for the choice made.

What? You don't want the freedom to choose? So that you don't choose the wrong thing? You of all people have the knowledge to choose the good rather than the bad. And you seem to only want the bad. So, what's the difference for you? You are going where you are going because you chose it.

What? You don't like the idea that some other people don't know how to make the right choice, or don't have an easy time of choosing? Well, make the right choice, and then get out there and help them make the right choice by becoming a preacher yourself. As it is, you are only trying to get them to make the wrong choice. What's the matter? Do you think their presence will matter at all to you once you are in Hell?

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How will god prevent evil in the new universe though, people will still have free choice, no? Therefore they can still commit crimes there, again, 0 logic. What about children born there once we go there? How will he make sure they are born not evil? Garbage argument.