Quote from: MTL4 on July 31, 2019, 02:41:41 PM

Quote from: AnonymousCoder on July 30, 2019, 08:42:49 PM

Just look how Martin Armstrong makes these arrays up. It is documented here:

https://www.ask-socrates.com/How-To-Use-Forecasting-Arrays#TradingCycle

Thanks, I had never seen this explanation before but it confirms what I suspected as to how the arrays were generated. It also shows why it would have been much more helpful to have the actual numbers on the bars rather than just bar heights/colors since the bar heights are obviously relative to what's currently displayed. Not sure why 2 bullish and 1 bearish equals neutral (yellow) but I digress.

Quote from: Alex-11 on July 31, 2019, 12:24:08 PM

Regarding the charts, yes it is hindsight and if you are extreme sceptical about Armstrong then you will demand hard prove from others and you will not try yourself to prove it. People who are more positive about Armstrong would probably say , oh this is interesting. I will watch this happen on a live system and if it turns out to confirm what was shown on the chart, then it's good to be used. Or you would look for other charts like this to see how those are doing in terms of profit. But this is not happening here.

I said it before and I can say it again. I don't feel like I have to prove to anybody that Socrates is working. I just want to discuss certain aspects of Socrates. Has anybody here is this forum shared results of real research? I mean something like I did in the forum with analyzing that buy /sell signal chart and posting the results (and probably even the raw data). I haven't seen anything like that from other people. So if I would invest e.g. 1 full week of work in researching in something, why should I post this here in the forum if nobody else does it? I've seen a lot of claims that people have back tested things and posted their conclusion, but I've not seen something like I did. Testing many samples and properly describe the test and eventually even post the raw data.

Alex, hang on a minute. There's been quite a few very smart people working on verifying Socrates. I'm happy to post up overlays I did of the Socrates arrays vs actual market performance (over days, weeks, months) but I can tell you I didn't see much worth trading at all and the reversals were ever less helpful when plotted against the market. I'd say that qualifies as impartial research. So the issue here is that you're saying the system works and you just want to discuss the details but a large majority of other folks are saying we're not even seeing it work or produce any profits at all (hence my request for real time trades). Then when those who claim it works are questioned, all we hear is you don't see the big picture or you don't understand how Socrates works. Wouldn't you want to prove folks wrong if they claimed something was BS and you knew better? This is not about whether you like MA or if you think he's totally lost it (I'd listen to someone who was crazy but correct any day) this is about if the system really works or if it's just someone making false claims.

Please post your overlays