Quote from: TheRealAwesome31312 on August 02, 2019, 10:36:30 AM

Quote from: The-One-Above-All on August 02, 2019, 10:07:04 AM

Quote from: TheRealAwesome31312 on August 02, 2019, 09:49:47 AM

Quote from: The-One-Above-All on August 02, 2019, 08:23:07 AM

The entire board is crushed to a super sub optimal levels by this bogus posting of ill thought out self serving politically motivated garbage.

Username: "The One Above All"
Certainly checks out when you write posts like these

The irony is that you're the one claiming that one should follow a fixed criteria to keep their posts being deleted in a SELF MODERATED thread, when in practice, only the OP gets to decide what that criteria is, it is not an objective matter.

Not sure what you mean by "politically motivated", really. I'm an anarchist by philosophy and in principle.

This is true currently but..

The OP does NOT get to decide on the criteria for deletion if my principles are followed. Yes currently people are censoring on topic relevant information that is substantiated by observable instances and that are independently verifiable. So that should NOT be allowed. That is simply creating an echo chamber and a one sided argument.

All relevant and on topic posts should be left in place if they are substantiated with observable instances.

However, on this board people confronted with inconvenient and undeniable observable instances just tend to scream TROLLING or TROUBLE MAKER or LIAR or DEFAMER in the face of these observable instances that don't fit with their agendas. Those aligned and benefiting from those same political views will pile in and make the same false accusations and then if that does not work they will slap red trust on your account and try to discredit you.

Other ass lickers and merit hunters (so they can power up their accounts to spam sigs at a higher rate) will also repeat this garbage and get merits for it. The reader is then confronted with a mass of highly merited posts and hoards of garbage accusations that drown you out and seek to crush your valid and irrefutable central points under mass of numbers.

The merit system and the financial rewards for falling inline with the merit sources/DT's here are far more damaging to free speech and fair debate than self moderated threads. That is for sure.

I don't think it would be difficult for the board to implement a button on the page where people can opt to view the unedited thread. So that people can choose to view the thread as it would be if the Initial poster had NOT deleted any posts. The edited version would be the default and raw unedited would be an option you can view by clicking the button.

This is a very fair point, and I certainly wasn't thinking of this when I had written my post. This is especially true for reputation based posts where people try to smear a certain user and want to drown out constructive criticism. imho they shouldn't allow for self moderated threads on forum posts like those

I agree. There are certainly instances where ALL all topic relevant information should be available to the reader but only if there are observable instances to substantiate their opinions or statements. If not you just get a weight of number situation where the real valuable and most important information is crushed under a ton of garbage that is the incorrect but popular view of those benefiting from pushing that view on others.

A button where the reader can opt to view the unmoderated original thread should be available.

There are certainly situations where SM threads are very useful but it is simply abused by those that want to hide the truth in many instances.