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Listen to David Berlinski, he basically knocks evolution down to "nothing more than an anecdote." If you still believe in the THEORY of evolution after listening to him, you are crazy.

I had never heard of David Berlinski until today. A professor at Princeton and an agnostic Jew that believes in intelligent design is refreshing to listen to. He really is brilliant.

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89IskZI740

How can he be agnostic but believe in intelligent design?

An agnostic and atheist are not one in the same. One can be agnostic and be theistic but they admit that there is no proof of that existence. It seems that David Berlinski is very much a philosopher and I would think his claim of being "agnostic" was one in which he takes a more neutral stance in his belief in God. There is more about him on Wikipedia though.

I'm aware of that, but how can someone believe in intelligent design whilst remaining agnostic? By definition you need a creator for that.

Wikipedia seems to think it is possible:

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Types of agnosticism

A person calling oneself 'agnostic' is stating that he or she has no opinion on the existence of God, as there is no definitive evidence for or against. Agnosticism has, however, more recently been subdivided into several categories. Variations include:

Agnostic atheism
   The view of those who do not believe in the existence of any deity, but do not claim to know if a deity does or does not exist.[21][22][23]
Agnostic theism
   The view of those who do not claim to know of the existence of any deity, but still believe in such an existence.[21]
Apathetic or pragmatic agnosticism
   The view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appears unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic. Therefore, their existence has little to no impact on personal human affairs and should be of little theological interest.[24][25]
Strong agnosticism (also called "hard", "closed", "strict", or "permanent agnosticism")
   The view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities, and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you."[26][27][28]
Weak agnosticism (also called "soft", "open", "empirical", or "temporal agnosticism")
   The view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable; therefore, one will withhold judgment until evidence, if any, becomes available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day, if there is evidence, we can find something out."[26][27][28

I have often thought that agnostics were just those that believe in God but think he is completely uninterested or not at all involved with us as humans on a personal level. Sort of like he created everything and is now letting humanity deal with it's own vices. It can often feel that way so I understand the agnostic point of view to a certain degree. However, I have personally come to believe that God is as involved in our lives as we will allow him, or ask Him to be.