Quote from: ETFbitcoin on August 06, 2019, 06:41:18 PM

Quote from: franky1 on August 04, 2019, 09:51:51 PM

but concentrating just on segwit.. lets list what segwit promised and if it has/hasnt achieved it
1. better transaction capacity: no
   bytes per transaction has got worse since segwit.
   segwit is actually more bloaty.
   even with a 1.3x byte growth compared to ~2015 stats the tx count has not risen by 1.3x

But the reality says otherwise due to max. block size change from 1MB to 4.000.000 weight unit and SegWit have lower transaction weight size.

dang you really are believing the propaganda.
segwit does not have lower transaction BYTE hard drive storage size. it has UNCOUNTED size which they refer to as Virtual byte. these virtual bytes are used to make all the weight of a block appear as 1mb to not break the now outdated1mb rule

but when it comes to WEIGHT which does account for actual bytes. segwit tx actually uses more bytes compared to a legacy tx of same input/output count

maybe best to learn about segwit and how it mis-counts bytes

Quote from: ETFbitcoin on August 06, 2019, 06:41:18 PM

Quote from: franky1 on August 04, 2019, 09:51:51 PM

2. fee efficiency: no
fee's in 2015 where pennies with a top price of 25cents before users complained. fees now are more by averaging 25c

And without SegWit and SegWit adaption, it'd be worse since less transaction would fit info a block which would increase avg transaction fees.

Besides, using cents rather than satoshi makes your comparison useless because because Bitcoin price in 2019 is higher than 2015

same could be said about the other way, using satoshi's instead of cents. less people are transacting as often because the cost is so high

the grand debate of bitcoins purpose WAS about a open currency without borders. yet the tx fee of bitcoin has ruled out utility to many countries of unbanked people

i am british but i travel alot. and while i see americans literally wanting to orgasm at the desire of a $20 tx fee to co-erse people over to LN so the west can make income as fee grabbing hubs, watchtowers, factories and routers. but the 3rd world countries are literally ignoring bitcoin because its been outpriced and made only fit for what they call the 'wall street crowd'

Quote from: ETFbitcoin on August 06, 2019, 06:41:18 PM

Quote from: franky1 on August 04, 2019, 09:51:51 PM

devs want to introduce new opcodes to segwit that reintroduce malleability into segwit

I've heard this before, but couldn't any detailed info. Do you know any info or which opcodes which you believe will reintroduce malleability?

i have been subtle to tell some that i will offer them no input into their research of discovering which opcode will introduce malleability into segwit

if you cant figure it out, maybe you need to do more research