Quote from: SantiagoSegura on August 22, 2019, 06:40:15 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on August 21, 2019, 10:12:05 PM

Quote from: SantiagoSegura on August 21, 2019, 06:44:26 AM

Quote from: BADecker on August 21, 2019, 02:10:48 AM

^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

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I'm with you on the government thing, i'm not fan of them either and i think that taxation is theft. And don't let me get started on that fool Bernie Cheesy

But there is a different issue when it comes to cannabis, and it is there whether you think we should be able to grow our own cannabis or not, and that is amount of money that is spent on so called " war on drugs" that America is loosing all those years.Hundreds of billions of tax payers dollars were spent, with not much results.And on top of that, people still go to jail because of cannabis possession.

In 2016 almost 600k people ended up in jail for cannabis possession, so whether you think it is your right to use something that is not legalized or not, you will get screwed if you live in the wrong state.Recreational use is legalized in 11 states so far, so unless you live there, you won't end up good if they caught you possessing.Try defending yourself outside those 11 states with "it is my right" and see how that ends up.....

There are numerous municipalities that have "do not prosecute" policies in effect for some years.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/16/el-paso-marijuana-hemp-prosecution/

https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/02/20/brooklyn-da-prosecution-of-low-level-marijuana-cases-down-98-percent/

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/baltimore-will-no-longer-prosecute-marijuana-possession-cases

Yes, things are slowly changing for the better, and in 20 years we will look at these laws as we look at prohibition.

But another problem here is that all individual cases are up to the prosecutors mostly, so if for example Baltimore gets different prosecutor that has different view on that, things might get bad again, and go in opposite direction.
So much safer way is decriminalisation of cannabis.

But the thing that the people are figuring out is that anyone - a prosecutor, a judge, a governor, a court recorder, a court clerk or the clerk of the courts, members of a jury - can be prosecuted.

If the city prosecutor acts incorrectly in the eyes of a defendant, the defendant can file a non-motion claim right into the court case he is fighting, and turn himself into the prosecutor. How does it work? His claim is the most recent addition, so it has to be answered first.

What would his claim contain? Wording to the effect that the harmed-person-accuser - the one who is accusing him - come forward and prove that it was the defendant who harmed him, so that he can reimburse him for the harm he did to him. After all, basic, standard law is that you have the right to face your accuser. Guess what. Most of the cases have the State or the United States as the accuser. It's right on the indictment. The State/United States are paperwork. They can't take the oath and get on the stand so that they can be cross examined by the accused (who has turned himself from the defendant into the prosecutor by the claim he filed into the proceedings).

People are finding out that if there isn't any claim of harm or damage against them, that there is no reason to admit to breaking some law. And they are finding out that if they are aggressive about it, by filing a claim into the paperwork right from the start, the prosecutor withdraws his indictment. Of course, when the indictment is withdrawn, there is no court record showing a win or loss. When there is no court record because there was no trial, few people realize what really happened, and how the guy won. And the guy is so happy the charges were dropped, that he seldom pursues it to get his money out of the court system.

The fact that some people pursue it is shown in the court cases, often against cops or the medical, where people win $thousands to $millions against government.

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