Quote from: veleten on September 04, 2019, 02:26:33 PM

the concept of a PVP lottery is not new and there was a wave of scammy websites that lured players with scripted bot plays
to me PVP lotteries have little to no future the way they are due to several reasons:
1. extremely difficult to prove fairness , you cannot be sure that the lucky player who is beating you time and time again is not a house sponsored bot
2. relatively long round waiting times - it is annoying to wait minutes ( in some cases hours or even days ) to play and with PVP sites you are not in control of when the round starts
3. overall low popularity because the vast majority of gamblers are already gambling at cryptocasinos and because of the "scam" trail , reducing the audience and increasingthe round waiting timers even more
4. PVP lotteries usually signal low bankroll and I cannot be sure even if I win the jackpot I get paid

and so on
waiting for a fresh , working PVP site concept to appear and no luck so far
if you have time, skim through the Gambling section pages , starting from page 10 and earlier to see the graveyard of pvp lotteries and you will understand my point

I am aware of the scripted bot plays which lured players to play. Sites weren't actually working, it was all fake in order for people to deposit. I didn't try to play on those, but i guess you probably couldn't even bet.

1. This is not diffcult to prove fairness, to be transparent with you there is only one way for this kind of PvP site ( if it's a "legit" one ) to scam.
Since they give the round hashed before the game, and the unhashed after, only the admins can have access to the unhashed before the game starts, with the round number you can "adjust" your bet, if a player bets 10$, he will have around 1000tickets, with the roundnumber you will be able to determine the winning ticket, hence place the perfect bet to be able to win.
This is the only way for the admin to be able to win, here on bits.game, bot is placing his bet as the first user, so it is impossible for us to trick the user and we don't have any program or command giving us the unhashed version of the round number ( which we could have if we really wanted to ).
Then again, to be able to do this scam, not only you have to place your bet AFTER the user, but you also have to be sure nobody is going to bet right after you.

I believe, when you play on a casino you have to trust it at one point, every casino could scam you if they wanted to.

2. On our site, we have 45 seconds, which allow users to place bets if they want to, once a second user bets, the countdown will start, so you don't have to wait minutes or hours to play.
3. Nowadays, it's hard for a new casino to become popular.
4. You are misundertanding our game, this is not a standart lottery. Here we don't have a bankroll, let's say you bet 1 ETH and i bet 0.1 BTC, i will have something like 80% chances to win the Pot and you about 20% because i will have 5 times more tickets than you. After 45 seconds, the game starts and a random ticket will be picked, winner will get 1ETH + 0.1 BTC minus commission.

We are offering a new kind of PvP site, i didn't see any PvP site where you could bet multiple cryptos to the same game. Overtime, we will be able to add more and more cryptos.
Before starting the development of our site, we did take a look around, that's why we decided to add a bot, and to add those multiple cryptos option.