Quote from: sana54210 on September 07, 2019, 05:18:58 PM

LeGaulois you are still quite wrong and you are failing to understand why you are wrong either. UBI is not money you get freely that makes you live without working while people who work make 3% more than you. No, it is an income that is given to you so you can pay for regular stuff that keeps you alive, like a shelter or food or stuff like that, it is not a lot of money and you can't survive on that, it is like welfare in USA which already exists.

So it's not money you get freely, it's money you get to pay for stuff....for free.
I love how you twist the words so that it can fit your purpose.

Even if it's rent money, food money, water money, heating money, condom money, beer money that is given to somebody for free it still must be taken from somebody else. Even if we all get this minimum income, not all of us pay for it. And this is called wealth redistribution.
The bigger problem is where will this stop, you will be granted food, then a house, then a car, then a vacation a year, then what?

Quote from: sana54210 on September 07, 2019, 05:18:58 PM

People who work are making 1000%+ more than UBI, assume it like this, in a third world country where someone gets 50 dollars in UBI to be able to live, there will be people making 300 dollars for MINIMUM wage, so people would be making 6 times more by just working in McDonalds, anyone who makes a decent wage would be around 700-1200 dollars range and the rich is still rich like doctors would make 5000+ dollars.

Again, loving how you toss around numbers but seriously I'm wondering how are poor countries going to afford even those small sums.
Every socialist state that has tried to pay the poor class a living wage, give them free housing and healthcare has failed and gone bankrupt. (DON'T!!!!! even try to bring in the myth of Scandinavian countries here) I really wonder WHO is going to pay for all this. But probably a mirror is going to answer my question in a blink of an eye.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on September 07, 2019, 07:22:28 PM

I'm not sure how I feel about UBI. A nationwide welfare state isn't something I particularly agree with, but with the number of people increasing and the number of jobs going to decrease due to automation, computing, machines, AI, etc.,

Maybe, but not happening this decade, at least in the EU.
We've just beat the record for the percentage of employed people/population.