Quote from: iruu on February 20, 2014, 02:44:31 AM

Quote from: mcjavar on February 19, 2014, 07:30:09 PM

ANNOUNCEMENT!

Asset Exchange is a great tool, but will not succeed without service providers. The most important question is
How to get legal FIAT out of the IPO?

Let me explain the IPO process using Nxt´s Asset Exchange through our example:
We have a limited liability company (ltd) in Austria with financial reports for the last two years which is accessible online. The owners are known; we will try to provide a reasonable business plan and are ready to attend Q&A sessions so we can wave away all doubts. We are planning to pay dividends regularly to our investors depending of income.
We are not a startup, but for this project, we will need another office, new developers, and a lot of things related to the daily job which we can´t (yet) pay with Bitcoin or Nxt, so we will definitively need FIAT to make those purchases. We need legal FIAT that the company can spend.
I am pretty sure that after the story with Visacoin (and all the other scammers) most of us will only invest in companies/projects of well-known community members, where the transparency is given, so you know whom you are lending your money. And they will also need a gateway to get legal FIAT out of the IPO.
I decided to consult a tax advisor, a business consultant and a professional offshore consultant to get an overview about the possibilities. And I am more than thrilled about the news I got.

My offer:
There are several ways for a company to get FIAT out of crypto, paying only a reasonable amount of tax. But all the ways are going through a special company (with special license) that is made for this purpose. There are professionals who know how to set things up in a LEGAL way, without risks. Sure, we need to pay (a reasonable amount of) taxes, but for that, we can have a good night´s sleep without the risk of getting busted for money laundering, tax evasion or something similar. We can have our own company, earn money by charging handling and transaction fees, AND help the community to grow and evolve. I am looking for a well-known community member to team up with to found this special company. I am a member of the community since the end of November and am ready to meet in person, wherever we can arrange it. This is a big opportunity, I think, but I can´t do it alone. I need someone to brainstorm with, to share the ideas, the work, the responsibility, the win and of course the risk of this investment.
Setting up a company (anonymously, so our name will not be linked to it) will cost 15 000 Euro (around 33 BTC or 350 000 Nxt) INCLUDING all costs for setting up the company in the Seychelles, all the consultants fees, and all other connected costs for the first year. From the second year on, the maintenance costs will be around 6000 Euro + an annual turnover tax of 1.5%. Setting up the same company not anonymously would cost 10 000 Euro.

We will be able to help to convert crypto to FIAT, and also to pay the dividends (in a legal way in FIAT) to the investors through our company if the startup doesn´t want to bother with this. Something similar to what Havelock Investment is doing, except, that we will not look for projects and attract investors, as this will be done using Nxt´s Asset Exchange. We step in once the funding was successful and the desired amount of investment was raised by the community.

I´ve already spent around 500 Euros on consulting with the above mentioned guys, so I am very serious about this, but will not start the project alone, just to make this clear.
I will be in Moscow this Friday till Monday and will be in New York in the end of March if someone would like to discuss this in person.

Anonymous Seychelles company for 15k ? Why anonymous? And why 15k ? You can open it online for about $1k.
The government annual fee for a CSL is just $200, the rest of that 6000 is your consultant's profit

Just create a ltd in some country without vat on cryptocurrencies (like Hong Kong, or even Germany I think) and that's it.

Still, I don't see the reason for an existing company to not just use an existing bitcoin exchange to get money out of ipo, unless it's actually illegal in its country (China?).

Do you have experience how things like this work? I saw that you can register online for less, but if you have no idea how it's working and never did it before you will most probably mess it up and it will take a lot of time to register your company, if you manage it at all. I have no experience with things like this, that's why I need professional help.
Why being anonymous? Because we can't know how the regulations will change. I personally won't like to have ny name publicly linked to an offshore company, because this could rajse the awareness of the tax office in Europe. Which is evesything but not nice.

How will the company manage the money coming from the exchange? Will they write a contract with all the investors? How can you explain if 500 000 usd pops up from Asia (for example) on your company's bank account?