Quote from: nutildah on September 17, 2019, 05:29:34 AM

Quote from: solid12345 on September 16, 2019, 05:01:20 PM

I don't have a dog in the core vs bch/bsv fight although I do find what BSV is doing is interesting, whether it will succeed long-term who knows. But one thing I've always rejected is this idea that everyone should be running nodes. The only people who run coin nodes are nerds with an altruistic mindset run, there is virtually no incentive for the average person to contribute electricity and keep their computer on 24/7 or even worse, to dip into their own pocket to run a cloud server. Human beings are inherently selfish and the best way to entice someone to do something is pay them. This is the heart of capitalism. Miners get paid for the work they do, why shouldn't node operators, even if it is just a pittance in fees since the overhead is much cheaper? While cheap, it is still overhead though.

You know what is actually true decentralization? Millions of people actually spending and USING Bitcoin around the world and the numbers being so gargantuan that the governments of the world can never hope to shut it down. People distort what decentralization really is IMO. The fight in my mind should always be to evangelize and spread Bitcoin/crypto's use, not have academic arguments over which network of 0s and 1s is more spread apart than the other.

I didn't say everybody should be running a node. I just said that if the BSV blockchain gets too unwieldy in size, for example bigger than the biggest commercially-available hard drive, its going to be a real turnoff for service providers with a capitalistic interest in BSV to run nodes.

And you seem to be confusing a fork of a fork altcoin with Bitcoin. "Bitcoin SV" isn't Bitcoin. Its an altcoin that desperately wants to trick new users into believing it is Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash already tried this (along with the whole bigger block thing) and failed. What is so special about BSV that would make it succeed where BCH failed?

Really, the whole debate is completely tired by now. BSV lost to BCH, which lost to BTC. Wake me up when BSV's hash rate begins to approach that of BCH's. Then we'll talk. Until then, I'm not bumping this thread anymore.

I say - only trusted services should run and care about CRITICAL IT infrastructure - esp if it aims for

>> GLOBAL FINANCE ( yes banks, govs, exchanges, merchants ALL INCLUDED = GLOBAL).

I m sure u do not want anyone's money depend on how twitter trolls will collude and decide on the next CODE FUCK UP like segshit or NO2X next time. This is utterly LOL - like RBF and many more 'TROLL FEATURES' inside a global finance protocol !