Quote from: mangoleaf on September 15, 2019, 06:33:55 PM

I'm an avid watcher of Roger Ver's bitcoin channel and he was talking about bitcointalk forum and how his old threads have him labeled as a scammer.
I don't remember Roger actually ever stealing money from anyone, I don't think he deserves those red marks.

His negative feedback doesn't label him a scammer. What it does is show a warning banner to unregistered users if they look at old sales threads created by Roger. It only goes as far to say one or more users believe him to be a scammer, and serves as a general warning applied to many accounts that receive negative feedback.

The feedback itself is justified as that's Nutildah's thoughts on the matter, which are shared by a large number of people out there. If you care enough you can dig deeper into how the trust system here works. If you are referring to people just flatout calling him a scammer in threads, he's very pro freedom of speech and opposed to heavy moderation; so I imagine that is welcomed by him. Again that is all open to how people perceive his actions, if it were wrong or even overly contentious it would bring about a good discussion and not so much a long line of people with the same impression.

His reputation itself is his own doing. When you consciously and actively use double-speak to present a convoluted argument to rookies and newbs ultimately leaving them less informed and confused; what do you expect.

Quote from: MemoryDealers on September 16, 2019, 08:47:49 AM

If someone buys BTC thinking it is "Bitcoin, a peer to peer electronic cash system" they are being scammed.

I rewrote this. This comment is off-topic but made me think. This is where you went wrong, and a lot of projects do. You removed yourself from an environment where your ideas for change would have been challenged and may have even been reformed. Instead you chose to surround yourself with other like minded individuals and used a marketing machine to promote you agenda. If you had continued to discuss and listen, you might have found a way to deliver a product the world needed instead of attempting to usurp a title. I'm not the one to debate you on the networks or the inner workings of crypto, it goes well beyond my fundamental understanding. I like yogg's advice come back and have open discussions with people, it can make a world of difference.

Personally I initially held you in a high regard, and followed a lot of what you were saying. This was because in 2017 as a newbie fresh as can be I followed into sites like bitcoin.com, and hey this dude has done a lot been around for a long time. I mined with your pool, was checking out the forum really followed the path. Here I am trying to figure out wallets and addresses, keys and understand the fundamental differences between coins. Now I have a personality that I was trusting intentionally spreading a false narrative. Hey I was buying into it, how could one not when you don't know what information is legit. I was making enough rookie mistakes of my own at the time, but you helped me realize the worst. I was taking a man shilling his project at his word. I guess I should thank you for that as it probably saved me later on. I don't care that you have an altcoin, I don't care that you want to piggyback off the Bitcoin (BTC) BTC name, but stop trying to force your will upon the world 1 newbie at a time, and own your project for what it is.