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Okay, this is a very sensitive topic.

I've made my stance on abortion not by seeing on the options but from instinct and my inner beliefs.

I'm someone who you would call as pro-life. But I don't support that there should be shootings in abortion clinics. I don't support a complete ban on abortions either.

Lemme explain my stance : I've been against abortion even before I knew there was a debate and terms like pro-choice/pro-life existed.

Why am I pro-life?
I believe that abortion is the killing of a potential human being. No matter how you define it, it's a living being which is killed and it is pure and hasn't committed any, any crime.

Now, when do I support abortion?
1) Rape cases. 2) Cases where the mother's life is in danger. 3) Cases where the parents "literally" can't afford to have the baby. (although I believe adoption is a very good option).

Lemme explain point 3.
In this point am talking about really really really poor couples who did a one night stand and can never really afford a baby. Althought I believe, adoption is a good choice.

When do I believe abortion should happen in of the above cases?
Within first four weeks. The exception is mother's life in danger.

Within first four weeks, given a "reasonable" reason, one can abort by saying "it's just a fetus".

Sure.

Where do I disagree with pro-choice people?

"My body, my choice, I can abort my baby for any reason or no reason at all, as long as it is in my womb, even at 8 months"

I disagree with this ideology as much as I disagree with the ideology of pure murder, rape and genocide.

Girl, maybe it's your body. But, after a few weeks that fetus also acquires a moral right.
One can't simply say, a 8.5 months old fetus is just a mere clump of cells, it is as much human as a 9 month old born baby.

Also, really, you can abort your 8 months old baby in womb for whatever reason you want? Who are you? Queen?

Now, I know, these cases are rare. Where they abort a 8 month old fetus for mere reason.
But again, this is not a debate of what happens. This is a debate between ideologies. If you believe "a girl has the right to abort a baby for whatever reason they like as long as it's in womb" then I disagree with you completely. Because that won't make it pro-choice, rather pro-abortion!

And my position isn't from religion but from my own conscience.

Comment what's your opinion

It is a difficult question to answer because you have to consider the rights of both life forms.

You have to ask yourself when a fetus becomes a person.

I am pro-choice however I do think that after the CNS forms, usually after the first trimester, abortions might be problematic from the ethical standpoint. Still, I think the right of women to self-determination with regards to their medical procedures should prevail.

IMHO, women should have the right and ability to abort their pregnancies within the first 12-16 weeks of their pregnancy, no matter what!!!

That should not be an issue to anyone with half a brain.

Just because a human embryo can become a human being it does not mean it is one. A pregnant woman is.

"You have to ask yourself when a fetus becomes a person."

Just because a human embryo changes dramatically for the first few weeks, does not mean that it is NOT a person, a human being. Anyone with half a brain should see that the embryo at least MIGHT be a human being, and err on the side of not taking the life of a human being.

Women should have the right to not get pregnant at all. Oh, that's right. They DO have that right. So, get married and raise the kid, or forego having sex in the first place.

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That is not really realistic. Times of stoning nonvirgins have already passed. Update your reading library.

Sex drive is a normal response of a properly functioning endocrine system. Not having regular sex causes psychological issues, insecurities, etc. All people should have as much sex as they can handle, IMHO.

Do you want to stop women from having vaginal sex? Castrate all men.

It takes two to tango.

You jump so far off-point that you prove you don't have the answer.

The practical answer for stopping abortions is no more sex. But why stop abortions? Because we don't know for a fact that abortion is not murder.

If you have sex, have the kid you produce. If you are the parents of that child, raise it properly. The best way to do this is marriage.

If you just can't take not having sex, but you can't stand marriage either, masturbate.

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